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Boeing Helping to Develop Algae-Powered Jet

jon_cooper writes "Air New Zealand, Aquaflow Bionomic Corporation and Boeing are working together to develop and test a bio-fuel derived from algae. Aquaflow Bionomic Corporation began operating in May last year after it met a request from the local council to deal with excess algae on sewage ponds. Boeing's Dave Daggett was reported this year as saying algae ponds totaling 34,000 square kilometers could produce enough fuel to reduce the net CO2 footprint for all of aviation to zero."

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  1. Re:Save the Fish by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the clearest signs of global warming (human-caused or otherwise) is an increase in algae using up waterborne oxygen and causing fish deaths.
    Huh? Algae produces O2, it doesn't use it up. Algae growth becomes a concern due to global warming and related issues because it thrives in a high-carbon high-temperature environment.

    The fish deaths are not due to oxygen deprivation from the algae; rather, some algae blooms produce toxins that kill off fish. In smaller waters (like ponds and slow-moving rivers) algae exerts downward pressure on fish populations by outcompeting other organisms in the fish's food web.

    While low oxygen concentrations are sometimes observed in waters with a high algae content, this is typically due to low aeration and warm water.
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  2. Re:cost... by Orange+Crush · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, they're talking about converting the harvested algae into bio-jetfuel, not straight hydrogen. It's pretty easy to get biodiesel from algae--extract the oil, then some fairly simple chemical reactions yield fuel that will work in any modern diesel engine with no modifications. This is nothing new. What's interesting is this company is working with Boeing and adding or changing a step in the conversion process to derive a fuel from algae suitable for jet engines instead of diesel engines.

    Hydrogen isn't all that great as a combustion fuel. Energy density is weak, it's expensive to produce, store and transport and the added temperature and pressure regulating gear adds a lot of dead weight--which is especially bad for an aircraft.

  3. It's not that hard to come up with that land... by Nitack · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is actually very practical. Popular Science just ran an article on algae fuel in their print edition last month, although I can't find it on their website.

    Regardless, many companies are experimenting with this and it is much more efficient then corn or any other sort of biofuel production. As for the 34,000 square kilometers, you don't need ponds to do it. Many companies are using clear plastic bags to do it. Think zip-lock bags. The algae only needs water, sunlight, and CO2 to reproduce, and fast. This process can take place anywhere, even in non-desirable desert lands that get plenty of sunlight. The land is cheap, not in competition with cities and other industries because quite frankly, it is a desert. I imagine that once this becomes viable (still in the research and refinement stages) Arizona and New Mexico will have a major industry popping up.

  4. Where are these numbers from... by cyfer2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Based on a research conducted by the National Renewable Energy Lab, http://www.nrel.gov/docs/legosti/fy98/24190.pdf, a 1000 square meter out door pond at Roswell, New Mexico was used to grow algae with controlled conditions (Ph value, CO2...). Algae could grow at a peak value of 50 gram/m^2/day and average value of 10 gram/m^2/day. Then some people on the good old internet translated (manipulated) this number as algae can grow at 10-50 gram/m^2/day. Then the number was redefined as biofuel can be produced from the pond at a speed of 10-50 gram/m^2/day. An acre is 4047 m^2. So that's 40470-202350 gram/acre/day and 14,771,550-73,857,750 gram/acre/year. Diesel density is 850g/liter, and one gallon is 3.7854 liter, so one gallon of diesel is 3218g. Then the pond production rate become 4,600- 23,000 gallon/acre/year, then some other people at the Wiki thing estimated 10,000-20,000 gallon/acre/year, and then comes the Boeing number.

    I really hope we can fly cleaner, but, man, there is a dead fish smell.

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  5. old research by f1055man · · Score: 3, Informative

    The technology for biodiesel from algae has been around for a long time. If you can put up with Alan Alda, here's a bioreactor at MIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnOSnJJSP5c Raceway ponds (google search spirulina) may be more promising for industrial scale algae farming.
    The problem is a lack of existing stakeholders able to make it happen. We already have corn, nuclear, wind, and solar lobbies getting their piece of the government handouts (and public interest), but there aren't many people sitting on massive algae resources and a large bank account. Biodiesel from palms has become big business, especially in Malaysia, but algae will provide a huge improvement in yields.
    Yield of Various Plant Oils (Lipids)
    Crop / Oil in Liters per hectare
    Castor 1413
    Sunflower 952
    Safflower 779
    Palm 5950
    Soy 446
    Coconut 2689
    Algae 100000 (order of magnitude due to large variance in yield by species)
    http://www.oilgae.com/algae/oil/yield/yield.html

    The nice part about using algae is that marginal land (desert or poor soils) can be used, and high nutrient waste streams are excellent feedstocks, e.g. the American southwest and the Salton Sea.

  6. Re:Save the Fish by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Informative

    It isn't the algae that deplete the oxygen, it's the bacteria that feed on the dead algae. Note also that some of the toxins from algal blooms come from these bacteria as well. The problem with fertilizer runoff is that the algae reproduces unsustainably, so that when it begins dying off, the system cannot cope with the plunge in O2 concentrations. This is exacerbated by high water temps and low flow rate.

    In a system where the algae is harvested for biodiesel, this is not a concern, since dead algae doesn't accumulate.

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  7. Re:serious response to funny post by Analogy+Man · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually there is a distinction beween stopway and clearway. Stopway needs to have an LCN (load bearing capacity) similar to runway surface to support the aircraft. The clearway is there so there are not physical or visual obstructions.

    There are many instances where the effective clearway is a body of water.

    These ponds do not need to be so deep that they would constitute a hazard for the plane sinking into the depths. In fact if they were less than a meter deep and the bottom was firm (concrete) the water would actually provide a relatively safe place for the plane to come to rest (dissipating a great deal of energy).

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