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FBI Used Spyware for Online Search

juct writes "The FBI has used PC spyware for the first time to reveal the identity of an offender who sent bomb threats to a high school in Washington state. According to heise Security, a declaration from the FBI official who applied for the search warrant describes the mode of operation of the spyware which the FBI is using under the abbreviation CIPAV (Computer and Internet Protocol Address Verifier)."

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  1. Are the editors boycotting reading /. again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yet another dupe! (From yesterday!)

    1. Re:Are the editors boycotting reading /. again? by RuBLed · · Score: 3, Funny
      Ha! The quote displayed as of the time I'm writing this is:

      If one cannot enjoy reading a book over and over again, there is no use in reading it at all. -- Oscar Wilde


  2. Please tell me why I should run Windows? by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course, the "if you have nothing to hide..." crowd are likely to be out, but what about rogue agents? What about investigations that target the wrong people by accident?

    I suspect that getting such a tool installed on my Linux box would be much harder.

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  3. How long will it be before... by bconway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the FBI (and some if-it-will-save-one-child-it-is-worth-it legislators) demand all the OS vendors to install backdoors so that it can come in and install whatever spyware it wants to be installed?

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    1. Re:How long will it be before... by bconway · · Score: 3, Funny

      I figured if the editors weren't going to take the time to post new content, there wasn't much reason for us to, either.

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    2. Re:How long will it be before... by chriddy · · Score: 2, Informative
      From the search warrant request:

      Because the FBI cannot predict whether any particular formulation of a CIPAV to be used will cause a person(s) controlling the activating computer to activate a CIPAV, I request [...] to continue using additional CIPAVs [...] until a CIPAV has been activated.
      Read "activate"="double-click on attachment". So much for the FBI exploting secret security holes that are otherwise unknown or actually paying OS vendors to install backdoors and security software vendors to not detect their spyware. Looks very much as if it's just a plain old trojan...
  4. More Firefighters Needed! by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would seem that there's a kink in the Firehose again .

    1. Re:More Firefighters Needed! by jsse · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Now I can see the purpose of Firehose now...

      It's now our fault in voting up a dupe, not /. editors, definitely not...

      Now /. needs to develop another system to penalize those who repeatedly vote a dupe, namely "List of idiotic dupers"

  5. Interesting speculation by bconway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Feds would have the $$$ and be able to hire the skilled labor to build some pretty sophisticated spyware tools. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to find out Microsoft included a back door in Windows. That rumor has surfaced before.

    The problem with either of those options is if they get out in the wild. How many people have access to those tools and how is their deployment managed? Who wouldn't be tempted to do a little sideline testing if they had those goodies in their tool chest.

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  6. Re:The Problem by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The barrier between man and machine is becoming much narrower. And that is a good thing. At the far end of the spectrum people have long been getting artificial hearing enhancers, and now we are starting on intelligent artificial eyes and limbs. People with epilepsy are getting electronics embedded in their brains. At the nearer end of the spectrum, a large percentage of the population now carries a small computer with them everywhere (their cell phone). The man/machine split is disappearing.

    Fuck that. Sorry, but you guys (US citizens) should start to become really concerned about your government violating personal, constitutional-granted rights in order to further the fight against "terrorism". This issue is real NOW, and, from what we read here on the other side of the pond, it's becoming increasingly out of control. Who cares about future artificial limbs when these people decide it's ok to install malware in your PC so they can eavesdrop private, personal files and communications, today?

  7. Security through obscurity by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well if you have nothing to hide and don't do anything that attracts attention, the security through obscurity principle kicks in.

    Sure some poor sap will be done over, but hopefully it won't be you.

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    1. Re:Security through obscurity by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you have one thing that you don't want someone else to know about, you have something to hide. And this one thing doesn't have to be illegal or unethical either. as long as we have freedom, we are free to hide things.

      Something to hide != guilty of a crime.

  8. Re:Good ! by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem is, even with a warrant, how do you know the software they install isn't installed to make you look guilty? The software can do anything they tell it to do, would you be able to have the source code examined at your trial?

  9. CIA by AnyThingButWindows · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Running a comp repair shop I removed a Trojan that possibly came from the CIA. Breaking it down in HEX revealed that. It snooped IE cache, and was as easy to remove as running toolbarcop, then hijack this, then removing the binary manually. Dumped IE cache, then put the user on a cacheless firefox configuration. That fixed the problem.

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