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Red Hat Reaping Benefits From Novell/MSFT deal?

Ho Kooshy Fly writes "It seems that at least one software group has seen the use of Red Hat substantially increase over Novell as of late. EWeek theorizes that this may be backlash from the patent deal with Microsoft. From the article: 'The survey's findings can also be extrapolated to the broader open-source software industry and are not limited to those enterprise customers using Alfresco software "because of the wide range of open-source and proprietary software use cases captured and the large sample size of the survey," [Ian Howells, Alfresco's chief marketing officer] said. "We think these findings accurately reflect the broad technology trends across modern stacks in organizations of all sizes." Gallup polls about U.S. presidential candidates typically survey about 1,000 likely voters, while Alfresco surveyed more than 10,000 people, he said.'"

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  1. no bias? by vfrex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not convinced that this is unbiased, especially the claims that Novell adoption is slowing due to backlash. Give us the stats if you want, but let us draw our own conclusions. Also, why did the report separate Fedora and RHEL while not separating openSuSE and Novell SuSE? Certainly interesting data, but like I said, I don't really want their conclusions. On a side note, PostgreSQL seems to be used a lot more than I originally thought.

    1. Re:no bias? by vfrex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not sure if I agree with you there. In theory, products quality should stand alone. In reality, there are a lot of directors of IT and CIOs who believe that Linux is a science project, and not a suitable server platform for important tasks. Until that sentiment is eroded, Linux and OSS will never gain the share it deserves. Strong marketing will help to erode that sentiment faster.

  2. Surveys by ireallylovelinux · · Score: 3, Funny

    I did a survey of surveys and found them only 88.1% accurate.

  3. Alfresco never directly asked the Question by darthcamaro · · Score: 3, Informative

    The eWeek story got it wrong. Internetnews.com got it right. From their article: "in an interview with internetnews.com, Howells admitted that he lacked that empirical evidence to back up his allegation. "All we've got is the raw statistics," Howells said. "We expected general trends to be similar, but what we saw was a big divergence going from the two platforms being almost the same to one tripling in size. We were looking at various reasons for that, and there may be a number of reasons for that but we don't actually know the specific reason." Among the other reasons why Red Hat users may well have increased is the emergence of a new Red Hat release -- Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL) -- which was released in mid-March just a few weeks ahead of when the Alfresco study began. Novell on the other hand had no similar product launch event at any point near the Alfresco study. http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3 690141

  4. Nothing to do with rubbish marketing by zerogeewhiz · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, Novell's marketing is spot-on, it's the MS deal that's done it.

    Novell haven't the faintest idea how to promote and articulate SUSE (do most people even know it's SUSE outside the geek community?) and are bleeding the people who can at a rapid rate, at least the ones I know.

    CxO's don't give a toss about deals with MS, they care about brands and RedHat are as strong as they come backed up with better marketing.

    I don't work for RedHat and I'm a Mac bigot, so I think I'm reasonably balanced.

  5. Don't get on The List by alucinor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So if I were a company evaluating whether to choose Novell over Redhat based solely on the Microsoft deal, I would definitely choose Redhat. Novel's deal with Microsoft has so many exceptions in it (doesn't cover "clone" or "foundry" or "other" products) and contridictions between the two companies (GPLv3 is/isn't covered) that all it seems to do get Microsoft's attention better for their "who could we sue" list. Because the deal surely doesn't protect you from getting sued, given all the exceptions.

    I would rather go with Redhat where there's far less confusion going on. They offer protection anyways, through OIN.

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  6. Alfresco? by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Funny
    '... are not limited to those enterprise customers using Alfresco software...'

    Sorry, I don't programme outdoors; I'm in my parents' basement!

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  7. A note about statistics by rar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gallup polls about U.S. presidential candidates typically survey about 1,000 likely voters, while Alfresco surveyed more than 10,000 people, he said.'"

    I recall that my statistics professor explicitly pointed out a common mistake in statistics: "Contrary to what people typically believe, the size of the sample is often not as critical as getting an unbiased sample." If you call the home phone number of people during daytime and ask the ones who answer whether they are employed or not, you will not get good statistics. Regardless if you reach 1 000 or 10 000 people.

    I have no idea if there is such a problem with the statistics presented here. I just want to point out their claim of sample size can not be taken to mean that their statistics are better than Gallup's.

  8. Re:I would put my usual anti-linux troll here by Vulva+R.+Thompson,+P · · Score: 4, Funny

    So switching to the left hand puts you in a better mood?