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$150 Linux Laptop for the Masses

Xemu writes "Inspired by Negroponte's laptop for children, the Swedish company Medison is now taking orders for their US$150 Linux laptop, the Medison Celebrity. The laptop is a 1.5 GHz Celeron M 370 with 14 inch screen, wireless network and it comes with Fedora Red Hat pre-installed." Update 2035 GMT by SM: As many readers have pointed out, the more you dig into the details of this company the more fishy it starts to seem. I would suggest any potential buyers be wary on this one.

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  1. Sure... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Funny

    But will it run Li- Oh. Right. Never mind.

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  2. laptop for children truly !! by middlemen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Among all available distributions, the company has installed Fedora, which by default does not come with installations of mplayer and other music software and libraries. This is a truly educational laptop where children will have to learn to use Linux and install software just to reach the end goal of watching porn. Finally, someone is not thinking of but thinking for the children.

  3. Sure...Vigilante OS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least you didn't say "But does it run Windows?". You'd never get out of this forum alive.

  4. Wish it had more details by WrongMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a neat looking laptop, but info on the website is pretty scarce. For instance, what kind of battery life can I expect? Is it as upgradeable as normal laptop (eg. HDD and RAM)?

    1. Re:Wish it had more details by C0y0t3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?

    2. Re:Wish it had more details by GiMP · · Score: 4, Informative
      Uh... from the website:

      POWER - Full Range 65W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 3.25A, Removable 6-cell Smart Li-ion battery pack, 4000/4400mAh
  5. It may be fraud by amorsen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a lot of speculation currently about whether this is fraud. They may be intending to run away with the money and not send out any laptops.

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    1. Re:It may be fraud by WrongMonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Now that you mention it, one thing that should set off the fraud alarm is the 4-6 weeks delivery time. That's a eon in terms of modern service, but a long enough time to collect a lot of orders before anyone expects to receive their product.

    2. Re:It may be fraud by albalbo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The content is a complete rip-off of:

      http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/M540V.asp

      They say that they manufacture in Sweden, but that's a Taiwanese firm. Definitely stinky, and I wouldn't buy one.

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    3. Re:It may be fraud by theelectron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I like how on the order page, the verified by Visa and Mastercard mastercode logos (which should have links from them to verify their authenticity) are just pictures on the site. Very fishy indeed.

    4. Re:It may be fraud by jointm1k · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is a lot of speculation currently about whether this is fraud. They may be intending to run away with the money and not send out any laptops.

      I doubt this is a fraud. They accept credit cards, like Visa.

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    5. Re:It may be fraud by Njovich · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The privacy policy is a copy of Apples privacy policy with their name and some filler added.

      http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/
      vs
      http://www.medisoncelebrity.com/legal/privacy/

      (for instance, check the 'kids' sections)

    6. Re:It may be fraud by Eivind · · Score: 4, Informative
      • Because it's a domain registered in april, for one year.
      • Because same guy has 5 earlier "Medison something" companies registered, 2 of which are bankrupt, rest of which are "dissolved"
      • Because the privacy-notice is cut-n-pasted from Apple (and poorly done at that)
      • Because the images of the laptops are photoshopped variants of a Taiwanese laptop. (and these claim to manufacture in Brazil)
      • Because they claim to charge ridicolous amounts for advertising on the site ($15K - $2 million) for a site with (if you believe their own claims!) 10K hits/month or thereabout.
      • Because the only way to contact them is a -hotmail- adress to what appears to be a private individual.
      • Because even their phone is "temporarily disconnected"
      • Because they have no adress, no contact-info whatsoever in any of the countries they claim to operate in ?
      • Because they (claim to) sell at about half the price of the nearest competitor.
      • Because they claim it's cheap becaus they "see it from a democratic point of view" which is crap.
      • Because there's around 20 other fishy-smelling things, but I'm tired of listing them. :-)
      If, after all of this, you still want to order one. Go for it. Oh, and I have a bridge to sell ! Send small unmarked notes :-)
  6. Smells fishy... by Da_Biz · · Score: 5, Informative

    See comments from Engadget:
    http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/25/medison-celebri ty-150-of-linux-laptop-for-the-people

    This one looks particularly concerning:

    Johan Löfgren @ Jul 25th 2007 12:02PM

    Hello fellas. I came across this site, when searching for information about this computer. With that pricetag, it would be a brilliant surf & chat computer for me.

    I'm a swedish student, and I found an article in a larger web-newspaper in sweden and was amazed..

    Sadly though, when reading comments all over, at swedish sites, this thing starts to smell very very rotten..

    The speculation is about this beeing a scam, in the same way that you've mentioned above.

    There's bankrupcy issues, lies at the homepage, weird and incomplete messages from the people behind this "madison" company. The screenshots of the computer, has been found at other manufacturers. Companies, that Madison claim to work with, hasn't heard of the connection..

    The things above, has been discovered by many people, at different swedish sites. Even more than that.

    The 4-6 week delivery time, sounds perfect to grab as much cash as possible and run.

    No-one can find anyone with an example of this computer. People doesn't believe this thing even exist.

    I recommend all of you, to wait and see how everything turns out here in sweden, before you buy this. As most swedes do right now.. Wait and see if the first computers arrive at all.

    I hope that this isn't a scam. I'd love to buy one. I'd love if the promised "future generation" will arrive.

    But this thing doesn't feel safe.

    Cincearly
    -Johan Löfgren. Orebro, Sweden

    1. Re:Smells fishy... by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well there is an old saying.
      If it sounds too good to be true...

      But running a scam like this out of Sweden seems like a big risk to me. But then I have no idea how good the Swedish legal system is. I thought they had some very strong consumer protection laws. It is probably safer to buy this if you live in Sweden than the US.

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    2. Re:Smells fishy... by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Damn. It sounded so good.

      Come to think of it, maybe that should have been the first warning.

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    3. Re:Smells fishy... by thethibs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How do you know it's run out of Sweden?

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    4. Re:Smells fishy... by jmorris42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > The thing is, it didn't sound SO good as to be absolutely implausible...

      Yes it did. I clinked to thier website and read the spec and instantly posted Scam.

      Negroponte & co can't hit $150 selling much simpler machines by the million lot and as a non-profit operation to boot. This machine is supposed to have a 14" TFT HD res screen vs the oddball cheap screen on the OLPC. This machine has both a hard drive and DVD drive while the OLPC has a dinky flash drive. The OLPC is coming out of the most lowball Chinese factory in the contract manufacturing business so there are NO more efficiencies to wring out of the price to give these unknown guys a way to offer more for less.

      Do the math people. When somebody offers you a new laptop for less than the display and drives cost when delivered by the shipping container while they give every indication of being a showstring operation that can't build a decent webpage or do their own e-commerce it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Scam.

      Like all good scams though, it preys upon a weakness in the victim. They might be crooks but they are good con artists. FAQ question #1 was where a good percentage of /. people started WANTING TO BELIEVE so much their common sense switched off.

      "#1. Q: Why is the laptop much cheaper than other laptops?
      A: We see this from a democratic point of view where we believe everyone should be able to afford to have a laptop. The other reason is that we have our own plants where we assemble our laptops."

      And you guys were all like; "Yea, everyone should be able to afford a laptop man, like it's a Right or something. The Man is just ripping us off to feed insane Corporate salaries and fat cat shareholders. These are just some hoopy froods sticking it to the System!"

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  7. Re:Fedora Red Hat by spiritraveller · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Aren't Fedora and Centos two totally different things?"

    Yes, as are Fedora Red Hat and Fedora Red Hat CentOS.

    Fedora Red Hat CentOS is my special creation. I mix the artwork of Fedora, Red Hat AND CentOS.

    In this way, I can have the stability of Red Hat, the currentness of Fedora, and the lack of mandatory expensive support contracts which makes CentOS such a great option.

    All of this in one distribution. You should try it. It's the next big thing. Honest.

  8. Re:Medison? by Kamineko · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here:

    *offers spoonful of sugar*

    That should help it go down.

  9. IKEA? by KeepQuiet · · Score: 5, Funny

    So I guess IKEA finally got into computer business:)

  10. No phone number! by ipjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To quote the website "The phone lines are temporarly closed" all they give is an email address. You can't even call to complain if you don't get it.

    If they are legit they are working really hard to seem like a scam.

  11. take this off slashdot by b4thyme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    shouldn't this be taken off of slashdot to reduce free advertising for a potential scam?

  12. Re:The fine print by jmorris42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > It might take one or two weeks longer to get the laptop.

    No, it might take that long (it says elsewhere 4-6 weeks plus they can shine people on for another week or two) for them to get cash from the credit card clearing house before they disappear. Add up the BOM on that machine and they can't buy those parts in 100,000 lots for $150USD. Scam.

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  13. Don't buy or leave your credit card data. Scam. by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a scam. Editors, please extend the story accordingly.

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  14. Working on talking to them live by CaptainTux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just sent an email to their people asking if they would be willing to do a live interview to clear some of the fraud questions up. We'll see how it goes I suppose. If they agree, I will get the interview up and posted on YouTube and UStream asap.

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  15. It comes with a very powerful battery by Pap22 · · Score: 5, Funny

    2.2Kg with 6 cells Lithium-lion battery

    ROOOOAAAAARR!!!

  16. Re:Medison? by Eudial · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're doing it wrong...

    First salt, then Medison, then lemon. Then you wake up in a shopping cart in a stranger's bathroom with a pounding headache, no memory of last night and no idea where your clothes are.

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  17. Just got a text from the owner/ceo/whatever by CaptainTux · · Score: 4, Informative

    As his website says, he is on vacation in Thailand but he will consider doing an interview when he returns. He claims he knows nothing about the rampant fraud/vaporware suspicions all over the internet about this.

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  18. Almost certainly a scam by unicron02 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Medison Europe United was incorporated less than 2 weeks ago: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/02f0dac25c029c53 8688518e70982ba3/compdetails

    Also, take a look at the address provided

    27 RUFFETS WOOD
    GRAVESEND
    KENT
    DA12 5JQ

    My my, Nordic Multimedia Distribution Limited is listed as having the same address: http://www.ukdata.com/company-credit-reports/NORDI C-MULTIMEDIA-DISTRIBUTION-LIMITED.html
    GI Finance Limited is located here as well: http://www.simplycreditreports.com/company-number/ 05905858.html
    La Vida Art Limited: http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/LA+VIDA+ART+LIMITED .aspx
    BYGG Invest Limited: http://www.ukdata.com/company-credit-reports/BYGG- INVEST-LIMITED.html
    HG Shiprepair Limited: http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/HG+SHIPREPAIR+LIMIT ED.aspx
    Also, Ken-Erik Limited is listed as having the same address: http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/KEN-ERIK+LIMITED.as px

    I checked google maps to see if I could locate the address: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2 7+ruffets+wood,+gravesend,+kent+england&sll=37.062 5,-95.677068&sspn=49.71116,81.738281&ie=UTF8&t=k&z =16&iwloc=addr&om=1

    Looks a lot like a residential area, either house/condo/apartment, definatley not a corporate or even industrial location.

  19. Obvious Scam (Price) by evilviper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's obviously a scam. You don't need to do a whois look-up or anything else. Just look at the specs.

    There's no way in hell they're going to offer a 1.6GHz CPU, 40GB HDD, 14" LCD, 256MB DDR, etc., for $150... Even at twice that price ($300) it would be a stretch, but just possible. At $150, it's laughable.

    You could make a $150 laptop... If you went with a tiny screen, no backlight, no CD/DVD, tiny HDD, no battery, ancient CPU, etc., etc. But with fairly modern specs as this has, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that it's real.

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  20. SLASHDOT IS ENABLING SCAMMERS by glindsey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Change the article to note that this is a scam.

    Yes, this is redundant, but I don't care. Every minute that Slashdot keeps this "story" up on the web page is another minute that they are providing free advertising for scam artists.

    I'm sure that Slashdot's sponsors would love to know that they are accomplices to fraud.

    Change the article, or take it down.

  21. Mr. Ivancic by Daniel+K.+Attling · · Score: 5, Informative

    After some light diggin thru public registers this is what I've found out about the owner of Medison.

    Valdi Ivancic, born 1970-03-26, has a filed residens on Holmgatan 16F, 37138 Karlskrona. However he is also listed as living on Lundenvägen 24, 56134 Huskvarna. The Huskvarna listing also has a cell phone number for MR Ivancic, +46-76-3384142.

    Whois information for medisoncelebrity.com refers to the Huskvarna address but lists another cell phone number +46-70-7572858 and also states the mans email address to be valdi_ivancic@hotmail.com.

    Also residing at the Huskvarna address is one Ljubo Ivancic, born 1947-08-14, listed with a land line number of +46-36-131524 and a cell phone number of +46-70-4326089.

    Neither Medison or Medison Consulting seem to be registered trademarks in Sweden.

    medison.se was registered 2007-02-09 and medisoncelebrity.com was registered 2007-04-11.

  22. Re:Fedora Red Hat by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to be confused wth Red Hat CentOS Fedora or CentOS Fedora Red Hat, what a bunch of wankers...

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  23. Slashdot needs a professional editor. by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Glad I read the comments. My kneejerk reaction was to go to the site and read the specs. For a moment I thought "it's on Slashdot so it's OK." I was about to call my wife and tell her she can have the laptop she wanted, and I hit the back button on my browser and started reading all the posts about this being a scam.

    So the readers of Slashdot, often characterized as the great unwashed, saved me from a scam brought to me by the editors of Slashdot.

  24. Re:$189 Asus Laptop by DLG · · Score: 4, Funny

    I suspect the difference in performance will be that the ASUS laptop will be a computer, and the Medison machine will be a sad memory of 150 dollars you once had.

  25. Re:Sure looks like a scam. Pull up a whois on it by mazanoid · · Score: 5, Informative

    Registration Service Provided By: Surftown Domains
    Contact: dns@surf-town.net
    Visit: http://www.support.surftown.com/
    Of course if you're too lazy, I've already pulled one up.
    The three key points:
    1) Domain name registered in april 07, for a term of ONE YEAR, how many hardware companies do you know who put up a domain for 1 year? Obviously only the companies that don't expect to be in business for a second year.
    2) The contacts are at hotmail. Okay, that's not good. Usually a hardware company would register itself with a DBA company name instead of a "Valdi Ivancic valdi_ivancic@hotmail.com", leaving
    human name contacts for administrative and technical contacts.
    3) The site hoster.... Surf-net charges .99# / year....with low setup fee, smells fishy....someone's going the cheap route about their corporate site.
    4) company can't afford a fax? Interesting.
    at least the scammer hasn't used anonymity services during registration.

    My two trollish cents.

    Domain name: medisoncelebrity.com

    Registrant Contact:

          Valdi Ivancic (valdi_ivancic@hotmail.com)
          +46.707572858
          Fax:
          Lundenvagen 24
          Huskvarna, 561 34
          SE

    Administrative Contact:

          Valdi Ivancic (valdi_ivancic@hotmail.com)
          +46.707572858
          Fax:
          Lundenvagen 24
          Huskvarna, 561 34
          SE

    Technical Contact:
          Surftown A/S
          DNS Administrator (dns@surf-town.net)
          +45.70200776
          Fax: +45.70200776
          Lautrupsgade 9, 1
          KÿFFFFF8benhavn ÿFFFFD8, 2100
          DK

    Status: Active

    Name Servers:
          ns1.surf-town.net
          ns2.surf-town.net
          ns3.surf-town.net

    Creation date: 11 Apr 2007 19:04:10
    Expiration date: 11 Apr 2008 19:04:10

  26. Re:Sure looks like a scam. Pull up a whois on it by nnm.one · · Score: 5, Informative

    Organisationsnr: Företagsnamn(firma): Företagsform: Firmatyp: Län: Status:
    19 700326-2016 1 Medison Consulting E Firma 10
    556525-1096 Medison Data AB AB Firma 10 Konkurs avslutad
    916575-3832 MEDISON Handelsbolag HB Firma 04 Avregistrerad
    969622-6852 Medison Handelsbolag HB Firma 06 Avregistrerad
    969627-7657 Medison Inlärning Handelsbolag HB Firma 06 Avregistrerad
    969628-2749 Medison Media Handelsbolag HB Firma 06 Avregistrerad

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    Let me translate that:

    Organisation Number: Company Name(firma): Företagsform: Firmatyp: State: Status:
    19 700326-2016 1 Medison Consulting E Firma 10
    556525-1096 Medison Data AB AB Firma 10 Bankrupt
    916575-3832 MEDISON Handelsbolag HB Firma 04 De-registered
    969622-6852 Medison Handelsbolag HB Firma 06 De-registered
    969627-7657 Medison Inlärning Handelsbolag HB Firma 06 De-registered
    969628-2749 Medison Media Handelsbolag HB Firma 06 De-registered
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    http://www.mufjonkoping.se/medisonVSclevo.JPG

    Pictures stolen from a company named "Clevo" that is based in Taiwan. Yet they claim that they are assembled in Brazil and that they
    will continue to do that until they have their manufactoring facility ready there.

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    It's a scam, nothing more to see here, move along now.

    P.S
    Their demand that they are/will be getting (as pointed out by a member of some other forum) will surpass the ones on Apples MacBooks, it is highly unlikely that this company from out of nowhere will be able to supply.