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OpenBSD Foundation Announced
OpenBDSfan writes "KernelTrap is reporting on the creation of the OpenBSD Foundation, a Canadian not-for-profit corporation intended to support OpenBSD and related projects, including OpenSSH, OpenBGPD, OpenNTPD, and OpenCVS. The announcement explains, "the OpenBSD Foundation will initially concentrate on facilitating larger donations of equipment, funds, documentation and resources. Small scale donations should continue to be submitted through the existing mechanisms.""
we already have something that's better then CVS, it's called SVN. all this bickering and duplicated effort does is help the bad guys win.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
The OpenCVS project seems kind of pointless to me. I can't imagine any new projects would use CVS, with so many better options out there (Subversion, Bazaar, etc), and if existing projects are worried about the security of CVS they would probably be better off converting to one of these other systems as well.
The OpenCVS developers are of course free to do whatever they want, but I'd think their talents would be better spent on something more useful than a CVS rewrite (or fork, or whatever).
the main source of theo thinking SVN isn't secure, is because that control freak didn't write it himself. which is ironic because openssl and openssh are 2 packages responsible for huge security holes over the years, both of which are his babies.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
All the *BSD is dying posts are contained in this one post. If you have mod points, please mod this up so that everybody will know that *BSD is dying! No need to post your own, as it will only be redundant!
Oh, and if I've missed any, please add your troll as a reply and I'll include it in the next Troll-in-one.
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The *BSD Wailing Song
What's left for me to see
In my ship I sailed so far
What can the answer be
Don't know what the questions are.
And after all I've done
Still I cannot feel the sun
Tell me save me
In the end our lost souls must repent.
I must know it is for certain
Can it be the final curtain
As long as the wind will blow
I'll be searching high and low.
Who knows what's really true
They say the end is so near
Why are we all so cruel
We just fill ourselves with fear.
And heaven and hell will turn
All that we love shall burn
Hear me trust me
In the end our lost sould must repent.
I must know it is for certain
Can it be the final curtain
As long as the wind will blow
I'll be searching high and low
Final curtain
Final curtain
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pressed to bsd lips
bsd drink up
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I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you BSD fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a BSD box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this BSD box, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Emacs Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various BSD machines, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a BSD box that has run faster than its Windows counterpart, despite the BSD machines faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 800 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that BSD is a "superior" machine.
BSD addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a BSD over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
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It is common knowledge that *BSD is dying. Almost everyone knows that ever hapless *BSD is mired in an irrecoverable and mortifying tangle of fatal trouble. It is perhaps anybody's guess as to which *BSD is the worst off of an admittedly suffering *BSD community. The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The erosion of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of BSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSD
It is a socialistic idea that the wealth should be distributed by the state. Replace state with community as we live in a global world and take into account the fact that FOSS is not about freedom, but about the denial of the private property and you will realize that the communistic ideology is where the world is heading which scares the guts out of me as my country used to be in its shadow and now it is ruined.
I believe it was at a conference in Australia that I ran into a rather despondent Theo de Raadt, who told me that for lack of 300 dollars, his ISP was going to turn off the project's servers. I took out my checkbook and immediately wrote him a personal check, to keep the OpenBSD servers alive. My comment to Theo was that "your project is too valuable to let die over a measly 300 dollars."
Hopefully with the foundation, they'll be able to manage their money a bit better than Theo was able to.
Fuck off jew.
LOL... more *NIX "big talk" about being "so secure"...
/. & other sites (Linux oriented ones) & to date:
"You also forget the target demographic for OpenBSD: this is not for your Desktop, nor even for your high-load server. You can use it for that, but the niche in which it lives is firewall, NAT, transparent bridging. Places where security matters more than anything else. Sure, a bit more complex to set up, you need to work more, but this is not your moms OS." - by Corporate Troll (537873) on Thursday July 26, @04:51AM (#19993919)
Well, ok then: Take that OpenBSD setup of yours, & run this test on it:
http://www.cisecurity.org/bench.html
And see if you can beat this score on it (which was gained on Windows Server 2003 SP #2):
http://img.techpowerup.org/070618/APK14SecurityPoi ntsCISToolResult84735.jpg
Via this "12 step program" (methods used to obtain that score on a modern Windows NT-based OS (2000/XP/Server 2003 & yes, it works on VISTA too):
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=fe3 a450dc9f3055920edd0fcea17b27b&p=375355#post375355
I have repeatedly challenged *NIX people to this test, 17 times now (this will be the 18th in fact) here @
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=254685&cid=199 85487
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http://linux.sys-con.com/read/382946_f.htm
Not a SINGLE *NIX user has surpassed the score I obtain using a custom-hardened setup of Windows Server 2003 SP #2 fully hotfix patched... not a one