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Toyota Unveils Plug-in Hybrid Prius

phlack writes "Toyota has announced a plug-in hybrid vehicle, based on their popular Prius. So far, it will only have a range of 8 miles on the battery (13km). They are going to test this vehicle on the public roads, apparently a first for the industry. From the article: 'Unlike earlier gasoline-electric hybrids, which run on a parallel system twinning battery power and a combustion engine, plug-in cars are designed to enable short trips powered entirely by the electric motor, using a battery that can be charged through an electric socket at home. Many environmental advocates see them as the best available technology to reduce gasoline consumption and global-warming greenhouse gas emissions, but engineers say battery technology is still insufficient to store enough energy for long-distance travel.'"

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  1. Re:Please explain by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Switching to grid electricity is good for national security. We need to distinguish between the energy requirements of the transportation sector from all other sectors. USA and Europe are self sufficient in non-transportation energy sector. There is enough coal, natural gas, tar sands, nuclear and renewables to keep the grid juiced up. But transportation ...

    Gasoline for cars, diesel for trucks, furnace oil for ships and kerosene for the jets all come mainly from imported crude oil. The shortfall between domestic crude production and the demand has widened very rapidly in the last decade. To keep sending more and more money to the Middle East to import oil is madness. Sooner we kick the imported oil addiction better it is for the West. Plug in hybrids would reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

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  2. Re:Please explain by Cervantes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what is the environmental advantage of electricity for cars ? It's mostly made with fossil fuels. I've never understood this. Am I missing something ? The efficiency of the little motor in your car is much less than the efficiency of, say, a nuclear power plant, or a gas-fired turbine, or even (iirc) a coal fired plant. And it's certainly dirtier than hydro, solar, wind, geothermal, or tidal. Additionally, gas and coal plants can (don't, but can) clean their emissions a lot better than your tailpipe. And finally, it cuts down on in-city pollution and smog.

    Additionally, having an electric car means that when the electric company upgrades their plant, you're automatically greener. With a gas car, you're still polluting the same amount.

    That's just off the top of my head, mind you.
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  3. Re:Please explain by bobetov · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It comes down to how we transition off fossil fuels.

    With internal-combustion-only cars, there is no migration path. Whatever method of energy generation you use, it all has to end up as gasoline (or similar fuel). This is, currently, enormously wasteful for energy sources that aren't fossil-fuel based.

    With electric engines, you're right that *today*, we mostly use fossil fuels to generate it, and so it isn't a great solution.

    But *soon*, we will be using more wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear, you-name-it energy sources, and as that happens, we start to eliminate the need for fossile fuels.

    My father in law lives in L.A., and has enough spare energy from solar to power a car, but there's no option on the market that will let him do this. Right now, he just sells it back to the grid. But with this type of hybrid vehicle, he could be almost completely self sufficient.

    Electricity is fungible - you can turn anything into it, and turn it into just about anything. Fossil fuels are only good for burning.

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  4. Re:Why the Prius?? by MushMouth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering there used to be a waiting list to buy a Prius (All models are hybrid, 50MPG), and used cars were selling for the same price as new, but you could walk to your local Honda dealership and buy a Civic Hybrid (48MPG) off the lot, they made the right decision. It is about the type of people who want a Hybrid, they want it to be clear they are driving a Hybrid, the Prius does that while the Civic does not.

  5. 120 miles? by ev1lcanuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Toyota's engineering is very good. Meet the 78MPH-top-speed, 120-miles-per-charge 1997-2003 Toyota RAV4 EV: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV. I was passed by one this morning on the freeway, I felt so inferior in my comparatively gas guzzling Prius.

    The batteries don't have a long way to go, they've just been forced out of the picture.