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Proposed IPv6 Cutover By 2011-01-01

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the swatting-a-nat dept.

IO ERROR writes "An internet-draft published this month calls for an IPv6 transition plan which would require all Internet-facing servers to have IPv6 connectivity on or before January 1, 2011. 'Engineer and author John Curran proposes that migration to IPv6 happen in three stages. The first stage, which would happen between now and the end of 2008, would be a preparatory stage in which organizations would start to run IPv6 servers, though these servers would not be considered by outside parties as production servers. The second stage, which would take place in 2009 and 2010, would require organizations to offer IPv6 for Internet-facing servers, which could be used as production servers by outside parties. Finally, in the third stage, starting in 2011, IPv6 must be in use by public-facing servers.' Then IPv4 can go away."

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  1. IPv6 PI needs sorting out first by gagravarr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the things holding back the deployment of IPv6 is the fact that IPv6 PI still isn't sorted. There has been some movement of late, but it's still not sorted. (PI = provider indepentent address space, PA = provider allocated)

    Without PI, you can't do multihoming, unless you're a Ripe member (so you're multihoming on PA space). Lots of companies will only use IPv4 PI address blocks (so they're not tied to one provider), so won't try IPv6 until they can get a PI block. At work, we'd love to do IPv6 in production, but because we can't get an IPv6 PI block, we can't.

    Until all the ripe regions roll out IPv6 PI, lots of companies that want to do production IPv6 just won't. It needs fixing

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  2. IPv6 adoption will be lead by Asia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The biggest problem with IPv4 is that the way addresses were distributed totally screwed over Asian countries. There are single Universities in the US that have more assigned IP addresses than pretty much the entire Asian continent! There are places in China that now sit behind six layers of NAT.

    Asia will lead, and anyone who wants to communicate with them will be forced to follow.

  3. Re:Sounds more lke a wishlist by mrsbrisby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think we're going to be able to do a clean cutover to IPv6 until most hardware/software vendors start shipping systems that require both IPv4 and IPv6 configuration to complete installation.
    That's nice. We're going to need two things bigger than that:
    • A way to upconvert IPV4 and ASN routing information so that I don't have to call my upstreams and ask them for permission to use IPV6 addressing and routing. A good start would be to make it mandatory to ASN holders at the end of a year. They can have an extension so long as any of their upstreams aren't ready (to protect smaller networks) but peer groups get penalized - say 500,000$USD for the first year.
    • Something actually interesting that's IPV6 only so that end users will actually want.

    Right now, users want to be on the Internet that Google is on. Small sites cannot add support for both networks because it's cost prohibitive. Make it cheaper for small companies to switch and more expensive for large companies not to if you need to force the issue. At this point, it'll probably be easier to come up with something interesting.

    Oh and John Curran is an idiot.