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Microsoft Cuts Vista Price To $66 In China

narramissic writes "Microsoft this week cut the retail price of Windows Vista Home Basic in China by 67% — from 1,521 renminbi to 499 renminbi ($65.80). This is a steep discount compared to what users in the US and elsewhere are charged for the software. The reason for the price reduction? Battling piracy, of course. The new pricing 'narrows the price gap between original versions of Microsoft's software and pirated copies,' making it that much easier for consumers to 'do the right thing.'"

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  1. Yeah, but everyone steals Ultimate.... by tjstork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IT's silly, why pay $66 bucks for a copy of watered down Dista when you can steal Ultimate? I mean, if you are in a country that has no IP enforcment, why not just steal the best one?

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    1. Re:Yeah, but everyone steals Ultimate.... by kimvette · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why? The $66 version comes with extra features, such as regularly phoning home to Microsoft to send information about usage patterns and installed software, while presumably the pirated/hacked version will not. How's that for the value of being a paying customer?

      Okay, I admit I set up a straw man there, but I couldn't resist. I'm not making a serious point here, just a cynical comment.

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    2. Re:Yeah, but everyone steals Ultimate.... by misleb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, $66 is still pretty damn expensive for most Chinese, AFAIK. So even if they wanted to buy the $66 version, I doubt they could realistically afford it.

      The nice thing about software though is that you can charge whatever you want for it and still make a profit. That is, if there is a difference between selling it for cheap and not selling it at all. Expect to see further price cuts from Microsoft.

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    3. Re:Yeah, but everyone steals Ultimate.... by Endo13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now that sounds like a copy of Vista I might actually consider for a trial run.

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  2. More Piracy? by stars_are_number_1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this mean we need more piracy in the US to bring the price down?

    1. Re:More Piracy? by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does this mean we need more piracy in the US to bring the price down? I doubt that would work.
      Piracy is incredibly pervasive in Asia
      Microsoft is using the carrot, because they don't control the stick.

      In the USA, Microsoft has the stick firmly in hand (in the form of lawsuits, the BSA, politicians, and law enforcement) and only occassionaly dangles carrots (in the form of discounts to specific groups).
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    2. Re:More Piracy? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Does this mean we need more piracy in the US to bring the price down?

      It does show that a monopoly results in consumers paying a ridicuously high price for the merchandise.

    3. Re:More Piracy? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right, and it does show that they can compete with free.

      It makes one wonder, if Linux and OS X were more successful, would Windows even cost $50 in the US?

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    4. Re:More Piracy? by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why piracy? There is another way to show you do not agree with their pricing without breaking the law. Just do not buy their products and do not use the pirated version either.

      You do not like brand X doing business in ways you dislike? Do not use those products. Do not like the *AA? Don't listen to their music. Do not like the sportsbrand having sweatshops? Don't wear their clothes. Don't like the pricing of software? Don't use it.

      Think to yourself what you would think software is worth to you, download any open Linux distribution you desire and then donate the money you thought it was worth to you to any open source project accepting money.

      THAT would bring the price down to what YOU think it is worth RIGHT NOW.

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  3. Values approaching free? by avronius · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Maybe we'd like to do the right thing here for a dollar amount that gets closer to 0, too.

    Fortunately for me, I'm happy enough with my games in XP - it's just a platform, after all.

  4. Relative to Income by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what is that, like 2 months of a person's income there?

    Reduce it to two or three day's income like it is here for the average person. Then you'll hit the point where they can afford it instead of stealing it.

  5. Re:So, logically, we should all pirate software by Walpurgiss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MS does it in China; yet here in the western world, the software companies use piracy as an excuse to need to raise prices. (To recoup alleged losses from e-shrink)

  6. Re:Let's follow their lead by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate to say it, but,... even "pirated Windows Vista" is still "Windows Vista",... you're better off sticking with Windows XP, ... or MacOS X ... or Linux.

  7. The good side of Piracy... by tgatliff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So are we saying there is a good side to piracy? Shocking!! You mean the music industry could have just reduced their prices to compete with piracy instead of sueing every single person?

  8. Re:Interesting pricing, for sure by HungWeiLo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If everyone had to opt-in to pay an extra for $90 every time they bought a computer at Best Buy, you'd see a lot of piracy too.

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  9. Re:Still more expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft was always been weak on piracy prevention. They've always known it helps them to solidify their stranglehold on the market. But they'd rather have the best of both worlds:

    Posturing about how piracy is wrong and illegal. Threaten. Remind people of the legal consequences, then drop prices. Most will continue to pirate regardless, some will be frightened into/enticed to buy a legal copy. They srengthen their market dominance AND sell their O/S. Perfect. It's a win-win (pun intended) situation for Microsoft.

    Honestly, when was the last time you saw Microsoft going after end users like the *IAA does? (SCO-related conspiracy theories aside).

    It's very similar to how one needs to protect their patents to retain them; Microsoft needs to at the least pretend that they're losing out to piracy, and pretend that they're trying hard to stop it. Otherwise, can you imagine the anti-trust allegations?

  10. Re:So if I purchase over the internet... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is buying a legitimate licence which activates and passes all Microsofts checks copyright infringement?

    Perhaps it could be a licencing issue, if the licence specifically says for use with a Chinese OS only. However, last time I checked and English Vista pack, it didn't say anything about that.

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  11. Because stealing is a crime by jesterzog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, if you are in a country that has no IP enforcment, why not just steal the best one?

    Perhaps because in China, stealing is still treated as a serious crime, and is often (I think) enforced quite heavily. A better course of action for people in China would be to infringe on the copyright, which is not seriously enforced.

    Unless, of course, you've fallen into the semantics of the stop-copyright-infringement lobby groups, who would love it if everyone saw the complicated artificial legal definition of copyright infringement as being equivalent to horrible crime of stealing. In that case, yes, they should steal the best one.