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Stem Cell Fraudster May Have Actually Made Breakthrough

Otter writes "Woo Suk Hwang's career swung from fame over his lab's claim of the first stem cells from a cloned human embryo to humiliation when the results were found to be fake. Research at Harvard on Hwang's cells has found that they are actually parthenogenic lines derived from eggs -- perhaps a more important and difficult achievement than what he had been claiming! 'Researchers said that the distinct "genetic fingerprint" of the stem cells means they may be the first in the world to be extracted from embryos produced by the so-called "virgin birth" method, or parthenogenesis. This happens when eggs are stimulated into becoming embryos without ever being fertilised by sperm, and has been achieved in animals. However, before Hwang, no one had managed to produce a human embryo using parthenogenesis which lived long enough to allow the extraction of viable stem cells.'"

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  1. Re:Um, sorry to correct the writer but... by Aslan72 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to Christian theology, sin nature comes in through the man which was why Jesus was perfect and sinless. I'd be interested to see if a human could come from this sort of procedure and what they would be like; theologically they'd have no sin nature. Wow, there's something to wrap your head around.

  2. Re:Um, sorry to correct the writer but... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Jesus Christ! That's pretty amazing! To produce a male offspring by parthenogenesis, the mother would have to be a chimera formed between her and a fraternal twin, and somehow produced an egg from the male-chimeric half's cells, which then underwent parthenogenesis.

    Now the probabilities are approaching miraculous.

    Of course, that would mean that Jesus was genetically Mary's twin brother.

    --
    Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
  3. Re:Um, sorry to correct the writer but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And Jesus, of course, was called Jesus -- and is not called Emmanuel in any verse in the New Testament.

    *cough*

    "Behold, a virgin shall be with child and shall bring forth a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel" (which being interpreted is, "God with us"). --Matthew 1:23 of the New Testament

  4. Re:Um, sorry to correct the writer but... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    some of these events have pretty freaky odds

    Precisely. Which is why it makes *far* more sense to believe the obvious: Mary got pregnant out of wedlock, then came up with a clever little tale so she wouldn't be ostracized.

    Honestly, why people turn to magic when simple human behaviour can explain such things, I'll never know.

  5. Re:Um, sorry to correct the writer but... by Peaker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read Mary was mistranslated from a "young lady" to a "virgin", and that is the source of that entire silliness.