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EPA Sends Data Center Power Study to Congress

BDPrime writes "We've all been hearing ad nauseum about power and cooling issues in the data center. Now the EPA has issued a final report to Congress detailing the problem and what might be done to fix it. Most likely what will happen is the EPA will add servers and data centers into its Energy Star program. If you don't feel like reading the entire 133-page report, the 14-page executive summary is a little easier to get through."

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  1. Summery by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you don't feel like reading the entire 133-page report, the 14-page executive summary is a little easier to get through.

    Still too long. Can anyone reduce it to a single phrase or word? Thanks in advance

    1. Re:Summery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      These forecasts indicate that unless energy efficiency is improved beyond current trends, the federal government's electricity cost for servers and data centers could be nearly $740 million annually by 2011, with a peak load of approximately 1.2 GW. It then goes on to describe three scenarios that decrease this to various extents but require work and preparation.

      Essentially, we're going to end up building 10 more power plants in the next 4 years because we're so fucking stupid that we can't take simple measures on our current data centers to make them even a little bit more efficient. If you ask me, energy is just too cheap. Put a cap limit on energy use and everything over goes up in price exponentially for a facility. Then you'll see them start to listen to you.
    2. Re:Summery by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      Maybe in a sentence.. "Individual Server power usage is embarrassing and it should be more efficient"...

      So what happens now?? Now we wait for a congressional committee meeting broadcasted on c-span where politicians can grand stand and talk about how it needs to change... Fortunately most politicians will consider this typical as a "black box", so they will not touch on technical details, but rather just complain.. Maybe talk about a special "colo server" tax.... Maybe throw in some global warming comments... Nothing occurs more than thi...

      What will change? Well considering that Intel and AMD are already moving towards cooler chips, this will be fixed thru time..

    3. Re:Summery by NeoTerra · · Score: 1

      Reduced to a single word...

      Whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....

      That help you out?

    4. Re:Summery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SH*T!

    5. Re:Summery by gallwapa · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, virtualization could probably help out here: I have a feeling a lot of the servers mentioned (although I admit I havent rtfa) have windows...Ive seen govt policies that say 1 app per windows server because they[widnows apps] "don't play nicely" together. Wasn't there an article recently on this, containerization or whatever they called it?

    6. Re:Summery by OnlineAlias · · Score: 1


      Virtualization has put the super smack down on our datacenter. From 250 physical servers to 20...how's that for power savings?

    7. Re:Summery by billcopc · · Score: 1

      That's no longer a data center, that's a closet!

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    8. Re:Summery by bigdavesmith · · Score: 1

      Most places I've seen it applied, it's a 4-1 reduction. Now if we could just get everything to be 12v...

  2. Grampa Simpson: by obergfellja · · Score: 2, Funny

    "... EPA!!! EPA!!!"

    1. Re:Grampa Simpson: by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have two buttons on my screen. One of these buttons will supply humorous moderations to your post. The other will release the hounds.

      Plead your case.

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    2. Re:Grampa Simpson: by obergfellja · · Score: 1, Funny

      Please open up and look into your heart...

    3. Re:Grampa Simpson: by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Funny
      Mr Apocalypse, I ask you to look into your heart....

      *runs from the hounds*

  3. Mandatory Madonna reference by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Having any Govt investigate efficiency is about as practical as the Madonna Commission On Chastity and Modesty. Computers are doing just fine at reducing their power consumption by many percent a year without the govt's "help".

    1. Re:Mandatory Madonna reference by Nezer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Having any Govt investigate efficiency is about as practical as the Madonna Commission On Chastity and Modesty.


      Which Madonna?
    2. Re:Mandatory Madonna reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which Madonna?

      One is the most famous mythical slut in history, the other a lousy pop singer.

    3. Re:Mandatory Madonna reference by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      Which Madonna?

      Madonna Ciccone, I'm pretty sure.

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    4. Re:Mandatory Madonna reference by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      You really are an Ancient_Hacker. Get with the times, the whore du jure is Paris or Lindsey.

  4. wow by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    n 2006, U.S. data centers consumed an estimated 61 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) of energy, which accounted for about 1.5% of the total electricity consumed in the U.S. that year.

    Is that it? Seems like small potatoes to me.
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    1. Re:wow by jandrese · · Score: 4, Interesting

      1.5% of the total electricity used in the US per year is a huge number. It's like when politicians talk about something really expensive and they say "oh, it's only 1% of our GDP" to make it sound not so bad, except to people who know just how enormous the GDP of this country is.

      More importantly, this could probably be reduced considerably without major disruptions or reduction in quality of service by just embracing higher efficiency components in our datacenter equipment (especially servers).

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    2. Re:wow by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's an estimated 11,000,000 servers in everything from 2 server closets to thousand server enterprise centers. These 11 million systems consume more power than all the TV sets in the US combined, and there are more TV sets in the US today than people.

      Or lets do it this way. Hoover Dam at peak output produces 2 Gigawatts of power per hour. 11 million servers consume 61 billion KW hours annually. It takes Hoover Dam 30,000 hours (about 3.5 years) to produce that much power. So you need four Hoover Dams just to power all the data centers in the US.

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    3. Re:wow by miller60 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, dams are serving as magnets for data center development, since hydro power is cheaper than other sources and provides the public relations advantage of being "greener" than coal or nuke power. That's why more than 2 million square feet of data center space is being planned in and around Quincy, Washington, a farm town of 5,000. Meanwhile, in northern NY state, HSBC is locating a $1 billion data center project in Cambria (another farm town of 5,000), where it will use hydro power from the Niagara river.

    4. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That number would change if they could just breach the coolant/cpu barrier in Megatron!

    5. Re:wow by Himring · · Score: 1

      That doesn't include the energy needed to support the nation of wow, now numbering over 9 million....

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    6. Re:wow by wcspxyx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can you please state that in units us Slashdotters can understand? Like how many Libraries of Congress would we have to burn to get that much energy?

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    7. Re:wow by Shishak · · Score: 1

      Um, If the hoover dam produces 2 Gigawatts then over an hour it would produce 2 Gigawatt hours. If the Government servers consume 1.2 Gigawatts then over an hour they would consume 1.2Gigawatt hours (GwH) So, 1 hoover damn can support all the servers. Still an ass load of power, no doubt but you don't need 4 hoover dams. That is by 2011, not today, they are expecting some growth over the next 4 years.

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    8. Re:wow by ascendant · · Score: 1

      since hydro power is cheaper than other sources and provides the public relations advantage of being "greener" than coal or nuke power. I was under the impression that nuclear power was at least greener than everything else (nowadays, maybe it wasn't a while ago). Dams I thought would be hella expensive with the dam itself, and not green because they mess with the river downstream and flood so much upstream. Nukes may be not be greener than wind, but they're most likely cheaper per Watt.
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  5. Great scott! by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Snipped from page 5:

    These forecasts indicate that unless energy efficiency is improved beyond current trends, the federal government's electricity cost for servers and data centers could be nearly $740 million annually by 2011, with a peak load of approximately 1.2 GW.
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    1. Re:Great scott! by nharmon · · Score: 4, Funny

      That amount of power can be easily generated with one DeLorean. I'm going back to sleep...

    2. Re:Great scott! by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      $740 million? That's like 4.2 days of the Iraq war!
      ($177M/day for Iraq http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nat ion/president/2004-08-26-iraq-war-clock_x.htm

      That sounds like a big number, and is for most of us, but not for the Federal government. About 29 cents more in taxes off each paycheck (assuming 100 M taxpayers, and paychecks every 2 weeks).

      There are much bigger fish to fry.

      Also, there is only so much one can cut the energy use, and thus that cost down, and still get the business of the government done. And the improvements in efficiency will require hardware, software, and personnel which have their own costs. Eventually you will hit a point where there is no longer a return on investment to make it worthwhile.

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    3. Re:Great scott! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what's the problem? Everyone knows that by 2011 plutonium will be available at every corner drug store!

    4. Re:Great scott! by Burz · · Score: 1

      Notice that the report was issued by the EPA, and what seems like a trifling amount of money for the federal gov't could represent a very significant impact to the environment. On page 8 of the summary it projects the CO2 emissions that could be avoided under the different scenarios.

    5. Re:Great scott! by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean one bolt of lightning? :)

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    6. Re:Great scott! by achbed · · Score: 1

      Either that or a few banana peels and a couple of cans o' beer.... meet Mr Fusion!

    7. Re:Great scott! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notice that the report was issued by the EPA


      Having recently done some work in an EPA data center, I would have to say that this is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. One would expect EPA to set an example here.
    8. Re:Great scott! by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, there is only so much one can cut the energy use, and thus that cost down, and still get the business of the government done. And the improvements in efficiency will require hardware, software, and personnel which have their own costs. Eventually you will hit a point where there is no longer a return on investment to make it worthwhile.


      The same thing was said for many other things over the years; lighting pops to mind. Offices used to consume about 3 watts per square foot of office area in the 70's. In the 80's, they got it down to 2, and in the 90's around 1.5. Today, with a bit of effort, you can get it under a half a watt per square foot. With automatic controls factored in, the daily power consumption has dropped by a factor of 6-7 on average over 35 years.

      Interestingly, offices consume roughly the same amount of power today as 35 years ago. If not for lighting energy savings, many of the computer innovations over the last 20 years would not have been practical, since buildings would not have enough power and cooling capacity to support the increased loads.

      Saving 50% of the total energy consumption of a PC today might help usher in the next technological innovation. Don't be too quick to poo-poo things that don't sound cool on the surface. Their just might be a market for piece-work server virtualization in a few years...
    9. Re:Great scott! by Calinous · · Score: 1

      Cool, very interesting post. Too bad my mod points expired :(

  6. cogeneration by MonorailCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Move all the data centers to Minnesota or Canada and use them to heat people's houses.

    Or better yet! DatacenterBurgerKing with CPU-broiled whoppers.

    1. Re:cogeneration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know from experience that Minnesota (and probably most of Canada) get extremely hot in the summer for about a month. Right now there have been weeks of 90-100 degree weather.

      So many people are so clueless about the qualities of a continental climate.

    2. Re:cogeneration by lpangelrob · · Score: 1

      I'll take a Mushroom and Swiss Intel with chips, please. Oh, and I'll also have floating point errors on the side.

    3. Re:cogeneration by misleb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ya know, I always wondered why most places weren't more efficient about the cooling of their datacenters... particularly in the winter. Like it'll be 20 degrees F outside and they're STILL running A/C for the computers. WTF? Just vent a small amount of the outside air into the datacenter and you're done. Or better yet, just blow in the air from the offices and send them warm, data center heated air.

      Another question, why do we vent the exhaust from our refrigerators into the house during the summer? Just seems like there's a lot you could do to save energy just by moving what would outerwise be waste heat to places where it can either be used or at least not cause a larger cooling problem.

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    4. Re:cogeneration by j_sp_r · · Score: 0

      That sucks, alcohol evaporates at 78.37 degrees!

    5. Re:cogeneration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Datacenter cooling is more involved than just heat. Humidity, pollution and other things as well as physical access must be controlled. This cannot be done by 'cracking a window' or venting raw air into the server room. As far as heating the rest of the office, a few DCs I have worked at vent and retrieve air from the plenum (the space between the false ceiling and the floor above) which actually does have a positive effect on the rest of the buildings temperature. Of course by positive I mean raising the temperature, which is not desirable in the summer months of a/c. But it is not terribly practicle to plug the plenum passages once a year.

    6. Re:cogeneration by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Humidity, pollution and other things as well as physical access must be controlled.

      Pollution is easily taken care of with a filter. Controlling physical access is trivial. Humidity may be a bit more involved, but then again, you're heating the incoming air which reduces its relative humidity. Condensation isn't likely. If it does turn out to be a problem, use a heat exchanger and preheat the incoming air using the exhaust air.

      But it is not terribly practicle to plug the plenum passages once a year.

      So? Install a valve. The savings should be enough to cover the cost of some extra ducting.

    7. Re:cogeneration by Mspangler · · Score: 1

      Scientific American had an article about containerized data centers; basically a server center built into a standard 20 foot shipping container. I was reading it while at the pool where my daughter was taking swimming lessons. And the thought di occur to me that hooking up the cooling system to the pool would be a great idea.

      And of course in winter, all you would need around here is to open the doors, but since there is a school only 75 yards from the pool, it would not be hard to run the water over there.

      People at all levels are so hard to get to spend Capital, but they'll flush Operating Expenses down the drain without a thought.

    8. Re:cogeneration by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      This Texan laughs at you!

      Back in 1994 when I still lived in Pecos it got up to 128F one summer. My dad tells me of 132 when he was in school in the 70's. 116 was a typical high, the lack of an "official" weather station means that the town gets credit for whatever Kermit Texas has for a temp (quite a few miles off and quite a few degrees cooler).

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    9. Re:cogeneration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical Texan BS. The official record high for Texas is 120 degrees F, on Aug. 12, 1936, according to the NCDC.

    10. Re:cogeneration by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Would you please point me to the official weather station in the vacinity of Pecos Texas which has different terrain and elevation than the official one I spoke of? Not having an official place of measurement doesn't mean it doesn't get hotter. Damn, there were times I wished we could have locked onto the current "official" temperature and lowered it to that. Tell you what, why don't you go move there for a year or two, if you survive the gangs who hate yankee carpetbaggers worse than they hate the average local gringo then you can contradict me.

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    11. Re:cogeneration by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 1

      I once worked in a shop where the mainframe's waste heat was captured to help heat the building.

      When they upgraded the mainframe (double the MIPS, half the size, 1/4 the watts) the mainframe didn't throwing enough heat to do any good.

      I haven't worked there for ages, I'm guessing they've got rows of Intel boxes beside the mainframe these days and probably recycle as much heat as the bad old serial terminal days.

    12. Re:cogeneration by jjackson · · Score: 1

      Ya know, I always wondered why most places weren't more efficient about the cooling of their datacenters... particularly in the winter. Like it'll be 20 degrees F outside and they're STILL running A/C for the computers. WTF? Just vent a small amount of the outside air into the datacenter and you're done. Or better yet, just blow in the air from the offices and send them warm, data center heated air. There is a lot more to environmental conditioning than temperature. In particular, the humidity of a datacenter is also very important - if humidity needs to be removed from the air, this is typically accomplished with refrigeration (take a look at a dehumidifier some time - it is just an air conditioner that keeps both the heating and cooling coils in the same room). Most datacenters I have worked in are buried in the middle of the office building - to pipe outside air in, you would still need a set of ducts, blowers, etc. It would also require a great deal of filtration to remove outdoor contaminants from the air. I live in North-Eastern Ohio where the climate is quite humid in the summer and the amount of salt used in the winter to melt snow would cause servers to corrode much the way our cars do (walking along side a busy street in the winter, you can actually get a taste of salt in your mouth from the amount of it being powdered and rendered airborne by passing vehicles).

      Another question, why do we vent the exhaust from our refrigerators into the house during the summer? Just seems like there's a lot you could do to save energy just by moving what would outerwise be waste heat to places where it can either be used or at least not cause a larger cooling problem. Mainly because a fridge does not have "exhaust" - the heat is radiated off of a set of large set of pipes on the back of the unit. In addition, with proper insulation, a modern, high-efficiency fridge doesn't need to run that often - I would venture a guess that the amount of energy needed to contain, extract and move the heat generated to the outdoors would likely exceed the saving of not having that amount of heat being compensated for by central AC.
  7. great news for Sun by toby · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...whose servers are among the most power-efficient available, and even more so with Niagara 2.

    Disclaimer: I own a tiny bit of Sun stock. (But I bought it because I believe in them, not vice versa!)

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    1. Re:great news for Sun by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Niagara shares a problem with many other energy-saving technologies: the money you save by buying less power is swamped by the extra cost of the hardware.

  8. Simple Solution by evilviper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've long been dumbfounded by the way datacenters charge. They seemingly all charge a hell of a lot for physical space, and then almost completely ignore power requirements. This seems incredibly strange, since datacenter operating costs are pretty much tied directly to power consumption (monthly electricity fees, UPSes, electrical generators, cooling, etc.), and only incidentally to physical space.

    Further, the cost to handle each extra watt is multiplied thanks to cooling, power back-up, wiring, etc., while increasing the physical size of the building, constructing more datacenters, etc. is just a flat (linear) cost, and mostly just a one-time expenditure at that.

    This strange arrangement is what has led us here. It's not the natural evolution of technology to cram as much power consumption into as tiny a box as possible. It's an artificial need, created by the idiotic distribution of fees common to datacenters.

    If a few large datacenters declared their fees as a small $$$ value for each unit of space, and additionally a few dollars, per watt of power consumption, you'd see the problem naturally fix itself, through normal economic forces. As soon as watts are the defining factor, companies won't pay more for a cramped 1U server rather than an (inexpensive) 2U or 3U server. You will also see companies happy to pay more for lower-powered server hardware, as having them directly bear the energy cost will make buying efficient servers a significant savings to them.

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    1. Re:Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It probably would cost to much to bother reporting on, what are you going to install watt meter's on each server? I know you can calculate the theoretical power usage but it won't always be correct (but still is doable). The cost of raised floor is significantly higher than the tiny amount you pay for power (although they buy a lot of it). I think more efficient cooling would be a good thing (maybe use the heat from the servers to heat the rest of the building,heat exchangers anyone? You could also earth shelter a building, and add geothermal A/C's (require trenching or drilling). But none of this crap will really happen due to the fact a data center will usually be located in a leased building with a large square footage, in densely developed place (with lots of bandwidth from multiple providers), and talented individuals to work for the technology...

    2. Re:Simple Solution by Renraku · · Score: 1

      People good with numbers will usually take the usable floor space of a data center and put a watts per square foot estimate with it based on average or projected power consumption. If you say every square foot costs an average of $5 in power usage, you can figure that in with maintainance per square foot, cooling per square foot, etc, etc.

      Combine these all into a neat little sum on someone's bill.

      Try to think of data center 'floor space' as the main stage. Everything is built around maintaining and supplying that stage. Thus, all costs will be paid for in that one room. You can bet your ass that electricity, cooling, maintainance, supplies, services, etc, are all figured into that little bill.

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    3. Re:Simple Solution by Nezer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It probably would cost to much to bother reporting on...

      Because when you run a multi-million dollar data center, you clearly can't afford install a few-hundred dollar device in each customer's rack especially if it's a major part of how you bill your customer.

      Look, the power companies do exactly what the parent poster suggests. Imagine if power companies charged a flat rate each month based on the square footage of your house. There would no incentive (unless your a save-the-planet hippie type which isn't a bad thing) to turn up the setting on the air conditioner (or turn it off all together), keep incandescent lights running 24/7 along with the giant plasma TV. This is essentially how data centers operate today. There is no motivation to have energy efficient servers unless you're the one that owns the data center and pays the power bill. Today the best a data center owner can do is invest in more efficient cooling systems and that's about it.
    4. Re:Simple Solution by jsailor · · Score: 1

      Very few, if any providers charge solely by square footage anymore.
      Like shipping packages where the fees are combination of volume, weight, distance, etc. Data center pricing is typically priced based on a combination of space, power, power density, circuits, contract length, continguous space, etc.

    5. Re:Simple Solution by fm6 · · Score: 3, Informative

      If a few large datacenters declared their fees as a small $$ value for each unit of space, and additionally a few dollars, per watt of power consumption, you'd see the problem naturally fix itself, through normal economic forces
      How on earth do you track individual power consumption? Putting a meter on each system is hardly practical. I suppose you get away with one on each rack, but many customers (the vast majority in the one data center I worked in) don't rent whole racks.
    6. Re:Simple Solution by ICLKennyG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is already happening to a functional point. Navisite, the host we use here at this company, charges by the square foot, however you only get so many watts per square foot. We have (2) 19" racks about half full of hardware with a total physical footprint of under 9 square feet; we could even get it under 5. However due to the power density we have 100 square feet of space that we rent. Because we use hyper dense blade servers for the management efficiency we fill a "racks" space of power with aproxamately a single blade chassis. So while we aren't physicly using 100 square feet, we have to have that space blocked out because we are drawing that much power off of their infrastructure, and so we pay for it. Same concept, just different implementation.

      I would say that 1% of the nation's power for every computer isn't that much when you consider how incredibly tied in we are, and the savings in power created by the use of those computers. Simple example. Before the electronic age if one wanted to buy something over a specific value they would comparison shop, likely driving all over town to find the lowest price. Now you just hop online, find who has the lowest price and go pick it up, or better yet have it delivered in which case many trips are "car pooled" into one more efficient trip.

      Power is a concern for computing, but we need to quit being Chicken Little about this problem.

    7. Re:Simple Solution by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      They don't need to track power consumption; they track capacity. So if you pay for a 30A circuit they assume that you will use all of it all the time.

    8. Re:Simple Solution by mosch · · Score: 1

      How on earth do you track individual power consumption? Putting a meter on each system is hardly practical. I suppose you get away with one on each rack, but many customers (the vast majority in the one data center I worked in) don't rent whole racks.

      PDUs that can track per-outlet power distribution, and spew the data over serial or SNMP are widely available, and deployed widely.

      The problem is also solved for larger (per-rack) situations.

    9. Re:Simple Solution by evilviper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People good with numbers will usually take the usable floor space of a data center and put a watts per square foot estimate with it based on average or projected power consumption.

      Of course the (average) price of electricity is figured into it. That is the PROBLEM.

      It is a (self-perpetuating) prisoner's dilemma. The more power consumption you can squeeze into the smallest space, the better of a deal you get. Since it's all averaged out, those using more power than average are getting subsidized by those who do not. It's basically stupid to invest in power-saving tech, since your hosting bill won't be any cheaper. However, this has gradually, yet significantly, raises hosting costs for all.

      It's a terrible system, that has single-handedly led to the wholly unnatural market for cramped and massively hot 1U servers.
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    10. Re:Simple Solution by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Having worked in a datacenter and I have even set up one, let me make it simple to you:

      The cost of 1U space = ((power + people + space + loan + hardware + software) / avg. used U's by customers) * profit rate

      Somebody can simply do that using an Excel sheet and the customer will know that his server costs $1000/year.

      The way you propose would increase that cost with development time, read-out infrastructure and the extra support to handle those things. Next to that, the customer would get a random bill every month that they can't foresee and then you have all those customers that will complain: but my processor only uses max. 50W, you bill my server for 100W/h etc. etc.

      It's much simpler to calculate it in the first place and advertise your server will cost a certain amount than saying, your rent is $100/year and a variable amount of $'s into whatever you use.

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    11. Re:Simple Solution by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Putting a meter on each system is hardly practical.

      I can't see any reason why not. An induction coil costs a few cents, and you could easily feed a rack worth into a single cheap meter.

      But more to the point, I really wasn't suggesting live monitoring. Just have them select from a range of power levels and charge them as appropriate.
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    12. Re:Simple Solution by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Somebody can simply do that using an Excel sheet and the customer will know that his server costs $1000/year.

      You have an interesting point at least. It is simpler billing, but charging by size is the worst possible thing you can do. It has lead to many problems over time, a few of which I've already mentioned.

      A thought experiment:
      What if you were to price based purely on number of servers, using average server size?
      What if you were to price based on the WEIGHT of the server instead of U size?
      What if you base the cost on power consumption, and average the U size instead?
      etc.
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    13. Re:Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well, I'm no expert, but I happen to work for the US Govt, and I happen to be aware of two major data centers we're standing up.

      I can tell you the above statement "They seemingly all charge a hell of a lot for physical space, and then almost completely ignore power requirements." is completely out of line with what we pay for our use of Tier 5 data centers.

      The two data centers we use (http://www.data393.com/ in Denver, http://www.heraklesdata.com/ in Sacramento) charge us a pretty penny for power usage.

      Hell we pay THOUSANDS of dollars to get them to RUN power, then we pay THOUSANDS more for the juice. (And this is the site that uses overhead rails with modular power.)

      Believe me... As an IT employee of the Feds, I'm WELL aware of the power costs, and I'm constantly trying to penny pinch to save YOU and ME money. I may have the infamy of working for the "MAN", but I do try and make the best decisions with the money I spend.

      (On the flip side, I'm posting on slashdot while you're paying my salary... I guess I'll have to work an extra few minutes today to avoid the hypocrite mod.)

    14. Re:Simple Solution by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

      This is definitely happening, at least in the UK anyway. It seems to be quite a recent thing, I suspect that power companies have been jacking up the prices for datacentres. As little as a couple of years ago, if you wanted to get some colocation, the cost was all about how much bandwidth you were using. I've been trying to get quotes for colocation recently and the message I've been getting from almost every company I've spoken to is that bandwidth and rack space is relatively abundant, but power consumption is what really determines the cost. The latest APC PDUs will tell you how much power you're using, possibly even on a per port basis - so it's not hard to work it out and bill for it.

      As you said, market forces will start improving the power efficiency of equipment. This can only be a good thing IMHO.

    15. Re:Simple Solution by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 1

      It would be very easy to measure the current in a wire. I could build a cheap device that could be built into an AC power cord. Almost any engineer could. To that you add a small 8-bit micro controller to send the measurement via Ethernet. You don't need 100% stable accuracy like you do with a meter that is read once per month. This little instrument would be read out once a minute or every five minutes.
      This is NOT a KWH meter you are simply sampling the instantaneous current in the AC line and logging to a DBMS.

      The other method would be for the data center to keep a list of how much power each kind of equipment draws and use that to estimate the power and then the bill.

    16. Re:Simple Solution by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Well, your first concept I have to accept, since you clearly know the tech better than I do. But you couldn't charge somebody for "how much power each kind of equipment draws" because that varies with usage. That was true even before manufacturers started making chips that turn off a lot of transistors when they're in idle state.

    17. Re:Simple Solution by toddestan · · Score: 1

      How about a cheap thermometer and a plastic bag? Put a plastic bag over the exhaust vent of the server, and see how long it takes to fill it. Next, measure the ambient temperature of the room, and the temperature of the exhaust coming from the server. Now you know a volume of air that the server heats a specific amount in a certain period of time. Apply your physics and you know how much power the server drew to do that.

      Before you laugh too much, that's basically how the EPA figures out the mileage of cars (just replace heat with CO2).

    18. Re:Simple Solution by paulius_g · · Score: 1

      If a few large datacenters declared their fees as a small $$$ value for each unit of space, and additionally a few dollars, per watt of power consumption, you'd see the problem naturally fix itself, through normal economic forces. As soon as watts are the defining factor, companies won't pay more for a cramped 1U server rather than an (inexpensive) 2U or 3U server. You will also see companies happy to pay more for lower-powered server hardware, as having them directly bear the energy cost will make buying efficient servers a significant savings to them. Yes, that would be a great solution. Unfortunately, real estate space is getting higher day by day. Building an extension to a datacenter isn't always feasible, and any physical space extension requires quite some investment (such as for cooling, you'd need more coolers to cover more space).
    19. Re:Simple Solution by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Except for mom-and-pop customers, all large facilities (365 Main, Savvis, Equinix) charge clients directly or indirectly for power consumption. They might price the cost in ways to obscure it, but if you work it hard enough you can get it down to $/SF plus $/kW. They will often give you a price break for redundant circuits over normal circuits if you are persistent enough.

      The problem with the equation as you suggest is that installed capacity is more expensive than consumption-- The lifetime cost of the infrastructure is about $0.08/kW/hour (assuming linear depreciation), and it is normally well under 60% utilization. When the equipment is installed, the maintenance and operation overhead is based on that installed capacity, not end-user utilization.

      It's great to introduce government mandates into things (it's the only way harmonics and power factor problems for computer equipment got solved), but the bigger value of this study is in helping people understand just how much power is wasted (power supply losses as an example) in a data center.

    20. Re:Simple Solution by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, real estate space is getting higher day by day.

      Fortunately, the speed of light is very fast. Even in areas with the highest priced real estate around, it's just a few dozen miles (or a couple milliseconds delay) to get to the middle of nowhere, where the same land is dirt cheap.

      and any physical space extension requires quite some investment (such as for cooling, you'd need more coolers to cover more space).

      If you have an empty building, you don't need a cooler (more accurately, a very very tiny one would do). The size of the cooler you need is tied directly to the power consumption of equipment inside the building.

      Companies do often buy a single large cooler, generator, UPS, etc. for their needs, but IMHO that's a bad idea as well. Buying smaller, independent systems is much better for reliability (fail-over) only slightly more expensive (though you get more than that back in savings when you find you need to expand), and would correspond exactly with my pricing model.
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    21. Re:Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's kWh, not kW/h ^_^

      $/kWh

      ($/kW)/h
      I guess sort of works...

  9. Congress will act by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Funny

    No doubt our congress will act swiftly by moving daylight savings time to conserve power.

    1. Re:Congress will act by RobBebop · · Score: 1

      I wish you weren't joking....

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  10. Virtualization? by tji · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just grabbed the executive summary version, and didn't see any mention of virtualization..

    To me, this seems like one of the more important aspects of power efficiency. Individual server efficiency is important, but the gains from higher utilization could be even more significant. Adding another core to a hypervisor will always be more efficient than adding a new system (CPU, Power Supply, disks, video, etc..). The energy efficient hardware can also be applied to the hypervisor hosts. Build efficient servers, and use as few of them as practical.

    Many data centers are already greatly decreasing their server count using virtualization. This should be part of any data center energy efficiency discussion.

    1. Re:Virtualization? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yep. See this recent IBM Press release. From the release,

      IBM on Wednesday said it has consolidated 3,900 computer servers in six locations worldwide onto about 30 refrigerator-sized mainframes running Linux, a move that the tech giant claims reduces computer-devoted floor space by 85% and will cut costs by $250 million.


    2. Re:Virtualization? by thegameiam · · Score: 1

      Virtualization is great for some things, but security concerns are substantial - PCI compliance generally means that all of the guests on a host have to be at the same security level. Also, some of the virtual environments don't handle IPv6 properly (and a few other things). These aren't showstoppers, but they can reduce some of the benefit.

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    3. Re:Virtualization? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      Also, in most current virtualization environments, performance under heavy load on the guest has shown to suffer from 10-40% (depending on which virtualization product you're using). Not quite ready for prime time yet.

    4. Re:Virtualization? by necro81 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Table ES-1 in the executive summary suggests server consolidation at various levels (moderate, aggressive, etc.). Server consolidation can be done in a number of ways, with virtualization being one of the most effective and popular.

    5. Re:Virtualization? by 1sockchuck · · Score: 2, Informative
      The report addresses virtualization only indirectly when it refers to electric utilities offering incentive programs. PG&E offers financial incentives to encourage the use of virtualization in data center consolidations, with qualifying customers able to earn a rebate of up to $4 million per project site. Other utilities are looking at adapting similar incentives based on virtualization.

      I'm not sure EPA is the right party to be advocating virtualization. The EnergyStar ratings and utility-level programs are more up their alley.

  11. location by SolusSD · · Score: 1

    With a lot of these massive datacenters residing in sunny california you tihnk they could offset a large chunk of their power needs with solar panels covering the roofs Like the FedEx hub in Oakland.

    1. Re:location by Dan+Ost · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it make more sense to simply build data centers in cooler climes?

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    2. Re:location by SolusSD · · Score: 1

      cool climate with some sunshine would be best i guess. you could leave the windows open *and* benefit from solar power to help power the servers. :)

  12. Get rid of the AC DC power supplys and replace.... by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Get rid of the AC DC power supplys and replace them with bigger ones that power more then one system also this will work better with back up power.

  13. Guessing by iknownuttin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Like it'll be 20 degrees F outside and they're STILL running A/C for the computers.

    Climate controlled. There's this element among building planners that think any outside air is bad(TM). That's why, even in small buildings where you don't have to worry about pressure differentials blowing windows out like you do in skyscrapers, you can't open a frick'n window in the Fall or Spring when the air smells wonderful and there's this perfect chill in the air the just stimulates the brain.

    I'm drenched in sweat here in Hotlanta (it's 82F and 66% humidity and climbing to 94) and I really miss New England's Spring and Fall.

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    1. Re:Guessing by misleb · · Score: 1

      I'm drenched in sweat here in Hotlanta (it's 82F and 66% humidity and climbing to 94) and I really miss New England's Spring and Fall.


      Haha, it is almost chilly here today in Portland. Well, cool, anyway. Portland summers are the mildest I've ever experienced in the lower 48. Though I imagine Seattle is similar.

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    2. Re:Guessing by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Actually, if I remember right I heard a story once of a data center in a northern climate that tried to pump in cool outside air to cool their data center. Apparently while the air was cool, it was also somewhat damp, which wasn't good for the electronics. So eventually, they just got tired of the condensation and corrosion and switched back to A/C.

      It can't be too bad though, I would think that an A/C unit cooling off a building with an outside temp below freezing would be very efficient.

    3. Re:Guessing by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      Speaking as one who knows a little about this subject, humidity is exactly why you can't always use outdoor air. Yes, outdoor air often is used, but not always. Hot air can hold more water, which itself can hold a lot of heat. The HVAC industry uses the term "enthalpy" for the amount of heat in the air. Bring in arctic cold from outdoors, and even though that outdoor air can be bone dry, you'll get massive condensation because the indoor air started with more than enough water to saturate the combined air mass. Air conditioners cool in 2 ways: the obvious way of lowering the temperature via a heat exchange process, but also by taking out the water which hangs onto most of the heat. A/C is often used in cool damp conditions to wring out the moisture, not really to cool. Add in people, who constantly dump moisture onto the air just by breathing, and you've got a problem. People breathing in an enclosed space that is being cooled by bringing in below freezing air from outdoors is going to end up getting everything covered in ice if nothing is done about the humidity.

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    4. Re:Guessing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I'm drenched in sweat here in Hotlanta (it's 82F and 66% humidity and climbing to 94) and I really miss New England's Spring and Fall.

      you appear to have forgotten that new england spring and fall each last only about 3 weeks up here. as for the forecast for tomorrow: near 90's (for temp and humidity). now what i really miss is california's one year long season...

  14. Server "sleep" mode? by GIL_Dude · · Score: 1

    OK, so I am a desktop/notebook guy. So this stuff may already exist for servers - but:

    1) With multiple front-end servers behind NLB, make the NLB smart enough to put some servers to sleep when their processing isn't needed and wake-on-lan those servers (or the equivalent) when they are needed again?

    2) Do servers do "speedstep" like desktops/notebooks where the processors and other components go to lower power level modes when they are not being fully utilized? If not, they should enable that.

    1. Re:Server "sleep" mode? by techpawn · · Score: 1

      Most servers run 24/7, so sleep mode would do more harm than good.

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    2. Re:Server "sleep" mode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) In certain situations this is practiced. IIRC there are some ipvs tools to support this.
      2) Most servers I have worked on are set for this. The only problem being most servers I work on have a load average of 3-5/cpu so the cpu never slows down because it is being used heavily and constantly.

    3. Re:Server "sleep" mode? by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

      Most servers are also overpowered for the workload they perform. Just getting people to stop running 3GHz processors when a 1Ghz Sempron would do, would be a nice start.

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    4. Re:Server "sleep" mode? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      AMD processors "speedstep" (it's why we purchased AMD boxes for our hosting operation). We've saved a huge amount on power (our datacenter does metered power, not flat rate power) due to this.

    5. Re:Server "sleep" mode? by techpawn · · Score: 1

      Replacing old boxes with blade servers are a nice touch. In mose cases they use far less energy then the previous box, but yes if you have a file server connected to a SANs and its only real reason is for OS there's no need for dual quad cores. But, in the case of say a SQL or IIS/WEB server, you need both horsepower and 24/7 response times. So, a sleep mode wouldn't help you in that case.

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    6. Re:Server "sleep" mode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      intel also does this.. put a clamp meter on your server line at 3:00am and retest at 10 am .. :D

  15. Cisco's Take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I listened to this podcast just the other day. I found it very interesting to hear it from the network side of things.

    http://www.bladewatch.com/2007/07/25/cisco-and-the -green-data-center/

    For the most part, vendors are already working on reducing the power load. That's what the Low Voltage CPUs are all about. Spend more now to get a CPU that will use less power and run a little slower. Besides, do you really need a quad-core 3 GHz CPU for that file-server?

  16. Data Center Jacuzzis by miller60 · · Score: 1

    Gervase Markham from the Mozilla Foundation suggests using excess heat to power data center jacuzzis.

  17. Federal Guidelines for Clock Speed Limits by infonography · · Score: 3, Funny

    55 Mhz that's the law, exceed it and your looking at a speeding ticket.

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    1. Re:Federal Guidelines for Clock Speed Limits by archen · · Score: 2, Funny

      I didn't see the turbo button was pushed officer! Honest!

  18. Um.. this is happening by jsailor · · Score: 1

    The concept of "free cooling" is gaining significant momentum in the data center space. I don't have any free or public information, but rest assured that leveraging winter air and other technique are being looked at very hard. Of course, this is not altruism or "green" thinking. It's our old friend financial greed. Reduction in capital expenditures for chiller plants and reduction in utility bills.

  19. Our government, now powered by lightning by GoNINzo · · Score: 1
    1.21 gigawatts? 1.21 gigawatts? Great Scott!

    The only power source capable of generating 1.21 gigawatts of electricity is a bolt of lightning.

    (Just reinforcing the reference. heh)

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  20. Units -arghhhh! by IvyKing · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or lets do it this way. Hoover Dam at peak output produces 2 Gigawatts of power per hour.


    What you meant to say is "Hoover Dam at peak output produces 2 Gigawatts." What does make more sense is saying 48 million KWH per day or a bit over 17 billion KWH per year - assuming that there is enough water behind the dam to allow for continuous peak output, which is certainly not the case this year.
    1. Re:Units -arghhhh! by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, is my math wrong? Or are you just irritated by the fact that I didn't show my work?

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    2. Re:Units -arghhhh! by IvyKing · · Score: 1
      I was barfing at the use of 'gigawatts per hour' when the correct term is simply gigawatts, a unit of power. Running at full output, Hoover Dam will produce 2 gigawatt hours (2 million KWH) in one hour - which is now referring to units of energy. Remember power=(energy/time) and energy=(power*time), so saying Hoover Dam puts out 2GJ/s would also be correct (and 7.2TJ/hr).


      'Gigawatts per hour' would be the correct term/phrase to use when describing how power production or demand changes with time and implies a time varying power. My guess is that Hoover Dam could go from no load to full load in about a minute, which means load increase rate of 120GW/hr.


      Your calculation that the average power draw of servers compared to the peak output of Hoover Dam is correct. Another way of putting the demand from servers is that nearly ten 10,000 ton coal trains a day would be needed to feed the power plants generating electricity for the servers.

    3. Re:Units -arghhhh! by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 1

      Ah, Gigawatt-hours of energy vs Gigawatt/hour of power. Gotcha. Sorry about that, been too long since I've really done anything with it.

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  21. HOW THE HELL IS THIS OFFTOPIC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He mentioned a perfectly fuel efficient method to cool servers!

  22. Hot loads by wsanders · · Score: 1

    Google for that and see what you get.

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  23. DC power distro by conspirator57 · · Score: 1

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2000867,00.as p

    Also reduces a major cost and greenness problem: all those little redundant ac/dc power supplies in those rackmount machines. Further, it allosw you to take the heat generated by the power conversion to another nearby location, reducing the CFM reqs for your cooling system.

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    1. Re:DC power distro by bigtrike · · Score: 1

      Yup...You replace all your AC->DC power supplies with DC->DC power supplies in the servers. It seems like the real benefit of the setup you linked to is the fact that it operates at 380v to the servers, which most likely allows for more efficient power supplies. You would probably see a lot of these benefits by switching to a higher voltage of AC, but you wouldn't want to run 5vdc and 12vdc through the whole data center, not without running copper wires the size of small tree trunks.

    2. Re:DC power distro by gokalp · · Score: 1

      Those Rackable guys http://www.rackable.com/solutions/greencompute.htm already did a DC powered system and they claim up to 30% of decrease in power consumption. Also Sun Niagara chipped servers http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/se_t1000/fe atures.xml lower the energy consumption considerably compared to other x86 systems. They're naturally suitable for virtualization at the same time.

  24. s/problem/irrelevancy/ by toby · · Score: 1

    Get over it.

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      To tech nerds, irrelevancy has never been a problem.

  25. Unless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're speaking French. Then, you'll need 2.21.

  26. Who's on first? by pongo000 · · Score: 1

    We've all been hearing ad nauseum about power and cooling issues in the data center.

    Whose data center? Mine? Yours? The EPA's?

    Please don't butcher the English language like that. Throwing random articles around is a sign of laziness (similar in magnitude to "They said...").

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  27. Re:Get rid of the AC DC power supplys and replace. by Chris+Snook · · Score: 1

    -48VDC is standard for some kinds of telecom equipment, so there's plenty of server gear that will work in -48VDC data centers, and it's very efficient. Unfortunately, using this niche gear requires very large economies of scale, on the order of tens of millions of dollars to be cost-effective.

    For mere mortals, blade servers are a better compromise. When you have 4 power supplies per 10 servers, instead of 20, you can afford to invest in more efficient equipment. It's still not as efficient as the rectifiers used in large telecom data centers, but it's a big improvement, and it takes 1000x to be cost-effective.

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  28. Re:Get rid of the AC DC power supplys and replace. by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    also a dc set will give off less heat leading to less need for AC

  29. Energy Star by sunking2 · · Score: 1

    Does this mean an Energy Star computer would be Sales Tax Free in Connecticut like appliances are?

  30. Higher voltage by Skapare · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have found that stock switching power supplies as found in common computers are slightly more efficient when powered with 240 volts rather than 120 volts. Some more so and some less so. And virtually all of them can be changed over to 240 volts (having the correct 2-pole switching).

    And by using 240 volts instead of 120 volts, you can run twice as many computers on the same power loss in the building wiring (same current, same size wire, same power loss due to heat, serving twice the load).

    Direct DC fed power systems may or may not provide realistic savings. DC introduces new electrical safety challenges and costs (electrical arcs inside switches, circuit breakers, and fuses, cannot be cut off by AC's zero voltage crossing that DC does not have). This requires lower voltages for equivalent interruption safety. But if power supplies end up losing less power than the building wiring at the higher current, then DC may be the better choice.

    We will need more in-depth study to determine if DC will save power or not at a given installation (it may at some and not at others). But for most installations, going from 120 volts up to 208 or 240 volts (depending in which is available) is as simple as rewiring the system (using 2-pole breakers ... requiring double size power panels) and verifying the computer power supplies are ready for the higher voltage.

    208 volts is the likely line-to-line voltage in data centers powered by 3-phase (208Y/120) power in North America. Future data centers could be designed for a 416Y/240 volt power system which can also be used to power fluorescent lighting.

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  31. Re:Get rid of the AC DC power supplys and replace. by Chris+Snook · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, but how much less heat? DC rectifiers waste heat too. 3-phase power supplies on blade chassis are considerably more efficient than typical 1-phase pizza box power supplies. The blade system has an efficient entry cost an order of magnitude more than the pizza box, and 3 orders of magnitude less than the DC data center, but is closer to the DC data center in AC conversion efficiency. This makes it a very good compromise for the vast majority of enterprises that do not buy their data centers by the acre.

    Don't get me wrong, I think DC is great, but until the market grows a lot more, it won't really be cost-efficient for the masses.

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  32. FFS by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
    We've all been hearing ad nauseum

    "ad nauseam"

    Yeah, it's an obscure word. Is it really such an imposition to ask "editors" to use a fucking dictionary? Took me 5 seconds to confirm my suspicion.

  33. 133 pages? hah, that's nothing by glitch23 · · Score: 0

    The last task I was on at work for the DOJ (as a contractor) produced 3 documents. The biggest was 450+ pages (lots of tables in appendices), the next one was about 280, and the smallest was about 50 pages I believe. 133 pages is nothing. We didn't have executive summaries either and our acronyms were placed at the end of the document as an appendix. I guess contractors and government employees have different document requirements. No surprise there.

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  34. Welcome to the party, even if they late... by jhw539 · · Score: 1

    Although to be fair, most of the work I've seen already done in this vein (years ago) did have Lawrence Berkeley National Labs involved, so I guess that includes the feds. Being personally biased towards stuff I've had a hand in, I think the self benchmarking guide at http://hightech.lbl.gov/documents/DATA_CENTERS/Sel f_benchmarking_guide-2.pdf and the design source book for datacenters at http://hightech.lbl.gov/documents/DATA_CENTERS/06_ DataCenters-PGE.pdf are far more interesting than a watered down Congress-critter report. I'm happy to see they mentioned free cooling, an amazing "duh" approach that is inexplicably ignored far too often (get an engineer to design it and the filtration and humidity control in the winter issues are trivial to handle, plus you end up with a net improvement in redundancy). But I'm annoyed at their ASHRAE boiler plate mention of hot aisle/cold aisle - a design approach that can be a Big Deal as far as saving energy goes as long as the fan control is done properly. As a closing note, benchmarking has shown that typically about half the power going into a datacenter goes to keeping it cool. So listen to us mere mechanical engineers if you want to save a buck or million on the power bill...