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Vote Swapping Ruled Legal

cayenne8 writes "During the 2000 election, some sites were set up for people across the nation to agree to swap votes, among them voteswap2000.com and votexchange2000.com. They were established mainly to benefit the third-party candidate Ralph Nader without throwing local elections to George Bush. The state of California threatened to prosecute these sites under criminal statues, and many of them shut down. On Monday the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the vote-swap sites were legal (ruling here, PDF). The court held that '...the websites' vote-swapping mechanisms as well as the communication and vote swaps they enabled were constitutionally protected' and California's spurious threats violated the First Amendment. The 9th Circuit also said the threats violated the US Constitution's Commerce Clause.'"

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  1. Seems reasonable... by nebaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If politicians can shape districts to 'coordinate' votes, why shouldn't the people be able to do the same?

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  2. Doesn't matter by Shagg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Diebold is already swapping everybody's vote for cash from the highest bidder.

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  3. This would be a good idea if... by bitfarmer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...everyone voted at a guaranteed same time, instead of across 4+ time zones where the open and close times for each polling station varies.

    I recall one of the many controversies in the 2000 election in Florida was some people were staying home in the panhandle (Central Time) because they were being told by the TV talking heads that Florida was already decided (in the rest of the state, Eastern Time) and so their vote didn't count.

    NBC's Tom Brokaw actually had an interesting idea -- have the polling take place over a two or three day weekend instead of Tuesday and have ALL the poll stations open and close at exactly the same time irrespective of time zone. That way you mitigate the 'my vote doesn't count' problem as well as making it more convenient for those of us who want to watch 'House MD' on Tuesday night.

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  4. Re:Cool by johnkzin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd rather have the Australian voting system.

    You rank the candidates instead of just picking one. On the first pass of counting, the highest ranked candidate on your ballot gets your vote.

    Then they eliminate the lowest ranked candidate. Then the ballots are re-counted, and anyone who had that as their highest rank has their vote go to their 2nd ranked candidate.

    Repeat until you have a clear winner.

    The advantages are:

    1) if you have single issue candidates, then the first round of counting tells you how important each of those single issue candidates were

    2) if you put your highest rank on your "idealist" candidate, and second rank on your "practical candidate", then you get to make both of those votes without throwing your vote away.

  5. Re:Just Democrats by omeomi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh, except we have actual beliefs where democrats* use polling.

    I think it's interesting that representatives listening to what their constituents think has been turned into a bad thing by the politicians and pundits who don't give a crap what people think, and just want to force their ideologies onto everybody else.

  6. Re:Just Democrats by xappax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I vote Libertarian, what odds will you give me that my vote will throw the election to the Democrats?

    If your vote contributes to throwing the election to Democrats, that's the only way it'll be effective.

    Think about it. The Libertarian candidate isn't going to win no matter what, but the Republicans might. If the Republicans can still win and gain power without your vote, then why should they care about Libertarian issues, or your opinions?

    If you vote Libertarian and the Republicans lose because people like you didn't vote for them, it forces them to take notice. They lost the election because certain people were so disaffected by the party that they deliberately withheld their votes by supporting the Libertarians instead.

    In short, the only way you can get mainstream parties to listen to you isn't by helping them win, it's by making them lose, and doing so in a way that clearly demonstrates the direction you want them to take.