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DARPATech Shows off Robot Doc and Cancer Breathalyzer

mattnyc99 writes "DARPATech, the Pentagon research arm's annual R&D free-for-all, has some pretty groundbreaking stuff on display this year: the first portable, self-contained robotic surgeon (which a Defense Dept. scientist said would be deployed by 2009), plus a breath-testing gadget that can scan for multiple diseases (including breast cancer) and three new autonomous 'bots that reflect the Pentagon's increasing need for autonomous machinery as the IED-filled Iraq war continues."

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  1. Automation and the devaluation of humans by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I was a little guy, I was taught that technology will be used to free workers from tedious and dangerous tasks by allowing unfeeling robots to take our places. This would lead to better jobs for those displaced. Instead of welding safety glass to car doors, we'd be building the robots who would do that. Automation, it was said, leads to a better quality of life for humans. Imagine! No more lost fingers from defective bandsaws. No more horrific scarification from spilled chemicals. Let the robots take those jobs, and let us humans reap the benefits.

    But what we got instead was robots taking our jobs without a safety net for the displaced workers. Humans, it seems, don't fit in the future. Oh, they are necessary insofar as they are active consumers, and we can't let those displaced people starve to death or watch only broadcast TV or drive a 5 year old car. No, those displaced workers ceased to be humans and became consumers, feeders of the machines. The machines work to produce stuff which the humans don't have enough money to buy. So the solution, obviously, is to create more robots to bring the prices down. The solution begets the problem.

    When it is as easy to kill your enemy as it is to press the yellow button on your XBox control pad, you've eliminated 50% of the horrors of war. When it is no longer difficult to kill another human being because the killer is so far removed from the killed, neither human has any more value than the rapidly blinking pixels on the viewscreen.

    We fight wars so that we don't have to fight them again. The horror of war, the firsthand experience of pulling the trigger and ending another human life, the trauma of hitting and being hit, the pain of a friend falling next to you. These are all deterrents to war. The pain that each soldier goes through is a powerful reminder that war is not something to be entered into lightly.

    Automate the killing, and the workers will be out of their jobs. It is precisely those workers that we need to be there to tell us to try one more time at diplomacy, to evaluate one more time our priorities, to stand there and be living and dead proof that the thing on the other side of the gun barrel is a human.

    1. Re:Automation and the devaluation of humans by Paradigm_Complex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So far, robots are pretty dumb. While I agree in our modern capitalist world 'bots will continue to chip away at a large number of jobs, these jobs are usually the ones that don't require an education. Get an education and plenty of doors will open up that robots can't touch. If you don't like that don't blame tech, blame capitalism. Your argument about lessening the horrors of war was made by (Mr?) Gatling back in the 1860's. Don't know if you noticed, but the horrible bloodshed his invention allowed didn't scare people away from war. War will happen anyways. A Commander in Chief who never sees the battlefield will be "desensitized" anyways, irrelevant of if he's sending in men with bayonets to kill each other face to face or ordering a tomahawk to be launched. While technology certainly plays a roll in war, it's not the one to blame. If you *had* to kill, wouldn't you prefer just pressing a button? Or would you prefer the PTSD?

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    2. Re:Automation and the devaluation of humans by Knutsi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When it is as easy to kill your enemy as it is to press the yellow button on your XBox control pad, you've eliminated 50% of the horrors of war.

      And it's already going on. Cruise missiles take out unseen targets daily. Now how does an enemy respond to that? Can anyone say terrorism? Can anyone say anti-Americanism? If you see thousands of your people destroyed by an unseen, elitist enemy that you cannot direct your anger at due to their superiority, wouldn't it make sense to support someone going carrying a suitcase-nuke to downtown NYC as payback?

      I'm not saying it's right in any way, just that maybe terror can't be forced back by causing more reason for grievance?

      But what we got instead was robots taking our jobs without a safety net for the displaced workers. Humans, it seems, don't fit in the future.

      When you retire a generation of workers by robots (somehow a development I suspect is being delayed by something called "outsourcing to the developing world") there will of course be a gap in which a generation of workers need to reeducate. Now, most of those in question will be quite old (as they didn't see the change coming, and thought the job had a future), so obviously there will be problems like this.

      It doesn't mean it's not worth it. After some time, people won't educate to the job that are now replaced by robots. In the future, I suspect the only jobs out there will be engineering, sciences and art. That's not to bad, is it?

      (Personally I do however have a more bleak view of the future related to overpopulation, but that is off-topic)

  2. Re:"No complications"?? by tibike77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In order for something to be "dead" it needs to be "alive" first, then lose that quality.
    Human doctors can make such "minute mistakes" too, that wouldn't show up on a "dummy test".

    Personally, right now, I'd rather put my life on the line to a human than an experimental robot, because I know that a human is less likely to be "buggy".
    However, if a "robot doctor" can prove it won't have any "programming bugs", and once it's endowed with sufficient (and correct) "knowledge", I'd rather take the robot than the human medic, because (unlike humans), machines are less prone to errors in judgement.
    The problem is in deciding WHEN the robot is sufficiently "bug free", and when it has "enough knowledge" (and how accurate that knowledge actually is).

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  3. Humans, it seems, don't fit in the future? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And yet people whose lives are lucky enough to be touched by technology have, at least on average, a better standard of living than their ancestors, live longer etc etc

    Somehow your horror story doesn't add up.

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  4. Re:"No complications"?? by HitekHobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the responses here, it sounds like people are expecting this thing to perform triple bypass surgery all on it's lonesome. It's not designed to replace surgeons. It's designed to augment them. If it replaces anyone currently, it would be nurses and anesthesiologists. Surgeons will have better visual display than the naked eye can manage and the machine will allow them to cut more precisely.

    What this really does is get treatment to trauma cases sooner and without endangering the medical staff by putting them closer to the battle. As a side benefit, it may allow surgeons with nerve damage or simple age-related problems to continue to operate when they could not do so manually.