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Microsoft DRM Code for Netflix Streams Hacked

reddburn writes "Macworld has posted a story by IDN News Service about a hacker who posted instructions for saving streaming movies from Netflix, defeating Microsoft's DRM code designed to prevent users from saving the content. From the article: 'A hacker who calls himself Dizzie wrote late last month on the Rorta hacking forum that "Netflix doesn't easily allow you to save the flicks and watch them at your leisure because the films are entrapped in some ... Windows Media DRM wrapper," referring to Microsoft's DRM system. Word of his hack spread more widely this week in various blogs and Web sites...He writes that the process for removing the DRM could take a few attempts, and the process does not remove the time limit imposed by Netflix on viewing the content. The Netflix site was down for maintenance early Thursday, although it was unclear if it was related to the hack. The site was back up later Thursday morning.'"

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  1. Thursday?? by vigmeister · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Netflix site was down for maintenance early Thursday, although it was unclear if it was related to the hack. The site was back up later Thursday morning Is it still not Thursday? Wonder if the hack still works.

    Very depressing that people are now hacking content they paid for :(

    Cheers!
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    1. Re:Thursday?? by vigmeister · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Until I break the time constraint, how does it matter? Why do they need DRM in the first place?

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    2. Re:Thursday?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Oh... You mean like storing content that you 'paid for once' on your TiVo and watching it over and over?

    3. Re:Thursday?? by pegr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and even though you are "renting" the ability to play the music,
       
      Have you read one too many EULAs? You do not rent anything. As long as you are consistent with copyright law (including fair use provisions), you are free to do whatever you want with what you bought and paid for! These is no license, there is no contract, and there is no "renting", regardless of what the media companies might want you to think...

    4. Re:Thursday?? by Skapare · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Very depressing that people are now hacking content they paid for :(

      Didn't you mean to say:

      Very depressing that people are forced to hack content they paid for :(

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    5. Re:Thursday?? by FLEB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No... this is pretty much out-and-outright a rental, presented as such in both the overt advertisement and the fine print. It's up-front explained that you get timed amount of ephemeral streaming video, monthly, as part of your contract with Netflix. To say they're selling you anything is like saying that because you can get a video from Blockbuster for a night, you've "bought" it, and you've got the legal and moral rights to rip a copy-- after all, the ones and zeros are in your house... and if you have gone that far, why not just discard all pretense, fire up BT, and rip them off directly.

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    6. Re:Thursday?? by Sancho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not the original poster, but I share his sentiment.

      The Wiki article is simply incorrect. If you have an optical disc that plays in an audio CD player, but it has DRM on it, it is NOT an audio CD as it does not follow the Red Book standard for audio CDs. It is a different beast which happens to work in some audio CD players.

      At first glance, it sounds like a horribly semantic difference, and the two of us seem to be locked in hopeless pedantry, however it's an important difference when it comes to sales of the discs. If the packaging and marketing promote the disc as an audio CD, but it doesn't follow the Red Book standard, they are guilty of false advertising. They have tricked me by calling it an audio CD when it is not one, and may not play in players which expect to find the format of a Red Book audio CD on the disc.

      So no. No audio CDs have DRM.

    7. Re:Thursday?? by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Where does it say that I am merely renting the music (or video or whatever)? If they had 2 separate prices, one for renting and one for buying, I might believe you.

      LOS GATOS, Calif., January 16, 2007 -- Netflix, Inc., the world's largest online movie rental service, today introduced a new feature that allows people to immediately watch movies and television series on their personal computers...
      Subscribers will continue to receive DVDs by mail from the company's catalog of over 70,000 titles and will have the additional option of instantly watching about 1,000 movies and TV series on their PCs. The new feature will be included in subscribers' monthly membership plans at no additional cost...
      Netflix said the introduction of immediate viewing is part of its plan to lead movie rental by adding electronic delivery to its existing DVD delivery platform. Netflix is specifically focusing on the rental segment of electronic delivery, distinct from the download-to-own market and advertising-supported electronic delivery.
      The hours available for instant watching will vary based on subscribers' monthly plans. For example, subscribers on the entry-level $5.99 plan will have six hours of online movie watching per month and subscribers on Netflix's most popular plan, $17.99 for unlimited DVD rental and three discs out at a time, will have 18 hours of online movie watching per month. Netflix Offers Subscribers the Option Of Instantly Watching Movies on Their PCs

  2. A little lesson in DRM: by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The more you restrict it, the greater the desire to break it.

    Open up, please.

  3. Why bother? by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay, if this is to watch the videos on a non-Windows system or if you have being forced into Windows/IE, fine. I'm okay with that as long as you manually adhere to the rental terms and delete the file. I know the reality of that, but on principle I agree that the DRM stripping can be a viable option for fair use for those who don't have or like Windows/IE.

    But if anyone wants to do this to download and keep the file, I really have to question WHY?? The only way to do this is if you have a Netflix account. So, if you're hell-bent on keeping a copy, you might as well go through the whole process of having the DVD sent to you and then do a rent-rip-return. At least that way you'll get the whole thing in full DVD quality with all of the bells, whistles, commentaries, and additional material.

    Not only do you need a Netflix account, but you also obviously need to have a broadband connection. In that case there are plenty of other outlets from Usenet to P2P to IRC to obtain copies of movies that already have any DRM stripped off.

    And if it's a movie that you really would like but don't want to pay $20 for a new DVD, why not just pay $5 for a used DVD from Netflix from whom you already are paying $xx per month for the subscription? I did that for a movie that my wife wanted, and the movie was in our mailbox in three days, complete with Amaray case and cover art.

    I honestly don't see why this is a big deal. There are so many other outlets to get movies illegally, even the complete DVD images. I know very well that the Linux crowd would love to make this an example of how people don't want DRM in order to enforce Fair Use with non-Windows systems and I agree with that. But we all know that the conspiracy-loving media, the studios, and the only-pirates-talk-about-removing-DRM-under-the-dis guise-of-Fair-Use crowd (you know who you are, and Slashdot unfortunately has a lot) are going to only look at this as a method of piracy even though there are lots of other ways to do obtain pirated media, including just getting the DVD from Netflix.

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  4. misleading title by scapermoya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The DRM code wasn't hacked for the site. they simply found a way to download the encrypted movie, and then proceeded to use an existing program that strips the WMP DRM. there isn't a specific DRM for netflix.

    netflix needs to control their streams better.

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  5. I'm Gonna Be Pissed... by smitth1276 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...if these morons cause Netflix to have to shutdown this service before they even get the good content on it. Good fucking grief... just learn to quit stealing shit. It isn't that complicated.

  6. Good DRM? by pkulak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I understand that people here think all DRM is always bad, but I don't have a problem with Netflix DRM, apart from it making me boot up Windows in a VM. I don't want to buy the damn movie, I just want to watch it once. Now if I was paying $10-20 for the thing I'd be pissed and want to hack it, but I'm paying 13-something a month for DVDs and these downloads. Why someone thinks they are entitled to own a movie they paid about a buck for (depending on how much you value these "free" downloads as part of your account) is beyond me.

  7. Is it too much to ask to read the comment chain? by mymaxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're going to reply to the comment chain, at least read the parts you're replying to. The discussion above was about CDs that you purchase and those most definitely aren't rentals. The subject changed, please keep up.