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Going to Yosemite? Get Your Passport Ready!

rev_media writes to tell us that CNN has a few updates to the Real ID act currently facing legislators. The Real ID acts mandates all states to begin issuing federal IDs to all citizens by 2008. Costs could be as much at $14 billion, but only 40 million are currently allocated. Several states have passed legislation expressly forbidding participation in the program, while others seem to be all for it. The IDs will be required for access to all federal areas including flights, state parks and federal buildings. People in states refusing to comply will need to show passports even for domestic flights.

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  1. Chertoff by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ... his name basically means "Satan" in Russian, not to mention that he even looks like Old Scratch in the picture in TFA. *Sigh* - how do we get such people in government?

  2. Re:Finally ... a measure that's right on the butto by Xzarakizraiia · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What about an American with an assault rifle? Someone was caught firing an SKS Assault Rifle in Ybor City just last night. Thankfully, no one was injured. I can't believe we let the ban on assault rifles elapse and still maintain that these violations of our liberties are an absolute necessity in order to protect ourselves. Why don't we start by keeping the actual weapons off the streets?

  3. Re:Wow by __aapspi39 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So what's new - another bunch of liberals have failed to see the point!

    the terrorists want to take away our freedom - the only way we can foil them is beat them to it! Get with it people.

  4. Re:Wow by senatorpjt · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I wouldn't really say the rest of us are net tax-receivers, most people don't receive anything from the federal government.

  5. Re:Wow by mastermemorex · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This are measures that have nothing about the nation security but as a pretext.
    The real objective is to control the movement of the people and the illegal immigrants.
    In the last decade, the country has been invaded with delinquents, chicanos, arabs and communisms.
    We have to do something to preserve the purity of the American way of life.
    Your country will appreciate any collaboration.

    ...Resistance is futile...

  6. Re:Papers please! by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'd say the fundies on the right and the welfare queens on the left pretty well cancel each other out in the "brainless voter" count.

    This statement alone is proof positive that the fascists already ate your brains out.

    "Welfare queens" are a wholesale fabrication of greedy millionaires who loath to pay taxes, and when forced to, to see a red cent of them go to someone who they consider sub-human. Curiously they have no compunctions about asking for other people's taxes to be used to bail them out after losing millions by stupidly gambling on risky investments or to be handed to them in "patriotic" no-bid military contracts.

    Fundies on the other hand are quite real, thank you very much.

    I hold your equivocation of the two as a demonstration of how your would-be Lords and Masters are successful at brainwashing the American public and shifting the "center" so far to the rigt that even any mention of moderate social reforms, which virtually every industrialized country in the world, and even some of the former Soviet Block ones, takes for granted labels you an instant "left-wing extemist loon" in America.

    You are truly lost.

  7. Re:Wow by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Personally, I don't see it as a big deal. I already have a federal ID (passport) and have to show an ID when boarding a plane (state issued DL or passport or military ID). I also used to carry a federal (DOD) ID card. Never once have I thought that having to prove who I say I am as an invasion of my privacy or my rights.
    DOD card. No wonder you're a police state shill...
  8. Re:Papers please! by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It assumes nothing of the sort. It only assumes that it's not MY problem nor my Responsibility.

    And assumes correctly. It is really simple you know: you are either a memeber of society and civilization, in which case you are automatically, without exceptions and excuses, responsible for doing your part in maintaining the well being of that society, or you are a hermit in a cave who are never allowed to make a single contact with another human being, in which case you are indeed not responsible for anyone else's plight, but in which case how come we are having this conversation using the Internet, a product of our civilization?

    Given the choices, I'll take the ghetto full of dead children. They're not my children, after all.

    You are then not fit to be a member of a civiliztion because clearly you are a deranged sociopath to be locked up for life in an insane asylum in a merciful society, or shot like a vicious, rabid dog you are in a less merciful one. And soon, lest your free-loading, selfish, greedy ways cause wide-spread damage around you.

    I have a BETTER question: how am *I* responsible for their plight?

    See above, you psychotic sociopath.

    Firstly, I'm not a libertarian

    Right, you are "only" a rabid, foaming at the snout, Ayn Rand "objectivist".

    Secondly, 'roads' and 'bridges' are not paid for by public assistance. In fact, they'd probably be in better shape if my taxes were used for them instead of handed out to the clusterfscks of humanity.

    Right, they are built for profit by deranged greedy sociopaths like you. That is why that mud road from your hut has a toll booth on it, no doubt.

    You fail. What I want is self-determinism, which is undermined by being forced, at gunpoint, to give charity.

    No, it is you who completely, utterly fail to satisfy the most basic of requirements to be a member of any society. If you want your kind of "self-determinism" then depart immediately for some remote cave, and while there do not make a single contact with anyone, by any means, for the rest of your miserable life on a penalty of having your diseased, "self-determined" brains blown out on sight. There, in that cave, you will pay no taxes, and no "welfare queens" will ever bother you. Take the knowledge of the English language as a parting, albeit completely undeserved, gift of the civilization, well in excess of what your festering mind would ever be capable of contributing back to it.

    But because you are a deranged, rabid psychotic sociopath, what you really want is to partake in the civilization, while avoiding any of the responsibilities attendant with that act of participation. In short, you want to be a filthy thief and you are moaning and whining about how the cruel society is not letting you get away with it.

    Tough luck, fucker!