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AMD's "Black Box" Athlon 64 X2 6400+
MojoKid writes "Rumors of a new high-end AMD Athlon 64 X2 chip circulated in July, but availability and specifics of the chip were unconfirmed at the time. Now AMD has officially taken the wraps off their new Athlon 64 X2 6400+, a 3.2GHz dual-core chipset to compete with Intel's Core 2 E6750 and E6850 series. HotHardware notes that the new 6400+ is still built on AMD's 90nm fab process and has a single 2-GHz HyperTransport link and 2 MB of on-chip L2 cache (1 MB per core), just like its predecessor the 6000+. The new processor is said to be a 'channel only' offering and will retail at $239 or so, in a black retail box (picture here) without a heatsink."
I for one don't welcome our new global warming overlords.
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Here's how some of the specs and prices (Intels from Pricewatch) compare:
E6750:
2.66Ghz
1.30V 4MB L2
1.33Ghz FSB
~$225
E6850:
3.00Ghz
1.35V 4MB L2
1.33Ghz FSB
~$300
6400+:
3.20Ghz
1.35V 2MB L2
2.00Ghz HT
~$240
From what I've read, the E6750 actually outperforms the E6850 since it ran cooler and with less power. So it doesn't look like AMD has a whole lot to offer given the price. Not to mention it doesn't come with a heatsink and fan, something you'd probably have to dish out another $20-50 for.
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That's actually a very competitive price point for AMD. A Core 2 Duo clocked at 2.67 Ghz is $559 (reference)
Personally, I'd love one of these processors - especially for a datacenter that I manage. I noticed a huge increase in throughput when we switched over our datacenter from Windows Server to Red Hat Enterprise (x86_64), and I'm not sure the memory starved Intel chips can keep up with the AMD HyperTransport architecture.
(Until Intel leap-frogs AMD, then AMD leap-frogs Intel, and we all benefit!)
What a bargain! Why didn't they just wait till 65nm? The same chip would probably fit in the 90W or less envelope at that size.
Personally, I'm happy with my E6600, which bangs along just fine at 2.4GHz and can easily outperform any Athlon at a similar speed [or at least match it].
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Everyone knows that all the 3l337 users are holding out for AMD/Intel offerings that feature flashing LEDs!
BlackBox edition....phuuullease
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So I'll still be limited by my Internet connection, HD, or video card, but my CPU core runs some smidgen faster than before? Yawn. Wake me when I get a 16-way on 1 die, or a 10 watt version of the slightly slower model.
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Wtf? These have been available for about a week.... in Australia.
Maybe America is getting behind the times?
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it clearly says "Black Edition" on the box... maybe they mean it's optimized for videos like the Hunchblack of Blotre Blame.
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Yes, but does it run... AMIGA OS!?!?
$239 is at 1000 or more quantity. so it's wholesale pricing.
Newegg will probably retail it at $350 to $390 IF they buy a thousand of them. Most companies dont want to stock that much of a processor as the price drops so fat you are stuck with overpriced stock on hand.
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The end of the article says "Without a heatsink", but look at size of the package - there's a heatsink in there.
Am I the only one that thinks they hired the same people that did the packaging for the iPod? And beyond that, should a computer chip ever have to carry some strange slogan such as at "Black Edition"? Hopefully people wouldn't be looking at two different chips and then go, "Well, this is called 'Black Edition' so, its probably better." Maybe the average computer user would fall for that, but when it comes down to it, the average computer user rarely buys their own chip.
When's the U2 edition come out?
I was holding out for a version that comes with interchangeable heatsink attachments.
A Hibachi Heatsink attachment for frying up some pork fried rice in the evenings.
A Space heater attachment as a fireplace replacement on those cold winter nights.
A blow dryer/curler attachment for the modern day multi tasking lady who needs to look sexy and code at the same time.
A heating pad attachment for the elderly developer whose bad back needs comfort after years of poor seating posture in WoW.....coding sessions.
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I guess that's what they mean by "Black."
Perhaps this means when Penryn hits, once someone were to go black, they'd go running back to white?
I haven't dealt with processors, but I used to own an office supplies/electronics business, and ANYTHING I didn't sell, I simply notified the supplier, and got a full refund, either in merchandise or money (wire/cheque).
Same goes for most products for a restaurant I used to run. We would buy a lot of milk, and if we had any milk go bad due to low latte sales, we would get a full refund for any milk we didn't use, they would just take the bad milk back. I know this is not the case when dealing imported goods, but not all chips are imported, so maybe some merchants do get compensated for overstocking.
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I've never heard of AMD not shipping with a heatsink retail. Perhaps an OEM chip with no heatsink, but retail always includes one. The packaging pictured in the link looks just like my Athlon 64 X2 6000+ packaging, only black. I believe some fact checking should be done before making foolish assumptions. Like they say assuming makes an ass out of u....
you never go back!
XBox360 has 3 cores of ppc64 ISA owned by M$.
... ...
32 KiB + 32 KiB + 32 KiB of independent L1 caches and 1 MiB of shared L2 cache
It clocks 3.2 GHz, higher or equal than any first elite Athlon64.
The biggest problems of XBox360:
* you cannot load linux code because XBox360 has protection, it only can load hw-encrypted binary code.
* there are many million of defectuouses xbox360es. Many of them indicate "Red Light Screen of Death!!!".
* there are mucho f*ck*d #$%&% to repair, arrive, send,
* xbox360 is bad designed, there are many warmest problems, many cooling problems,
* it's more expensive than any PC without TFT but cheaper than this Athlon64 core.
* the xbox360 destroys some original game disks.
that picture link shows the retail box... which would contain a heatsink...
It has only 512 MiB of slow DDR400 RAM!!!
.. DDR-II 1066 RAM modules.
No 1 GiB, no 2 GiB, no 4 GiB, no 8 GiB,
It has not keyboard. If you want it then you have to buy a "M$ keyboard?".
Loader's hw-encryption is PROHIBITED in France!!! Or can i violate it in France???
as most have suspected, it more power consuming and underperforming against the e6750 and e6850 in almost every category.M D-A64X2-6400&rid=842214/
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=842214&tp=A
At least this CPU will have something to wear to AMD's funeral. (I like AMD, but they need to step up their game!)
...it's spelled '1337'.
Duh.
People would adjust their benchmarks to reflect reality. Since they have not, you are wrong.
This seems to be happening more and more. People love to call chips, chipsets. It may have dual cores, but its two cores on a single chip. The north and south bridge are collectively called a chipset, and you could call multiple SATA/PATA controllers a chipset, but you can not call a processor a chipset.
I'm still angry at AMD because of the discontinuation of processors for the socket 939.
>.<
We are Turing O-Machines. The Oracle is out there.
for upcoming Phenom line ?
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That is by far the most disgusting troll post I've ever read here. You sir, win the prize.
For a similar price you can get a Q6600 (quad core intel 2.4ghz).
Hopefully for us all (even those who'll never buy from them) they'll pull out of it. Not today, though.
This is just about the most horrible thing I've ever read. I'm... I'm... actually impressed.