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FCC Puts 4.6 Billion Minimum Bid on Spectrum Auction

ChainedFei writes "Wired News notes that the Spectrum auction is moving forward, with the FCC placing a minimum bid for the C-block spectrum being offered at $4.6 billion. That, coincidentally, was the amount that Google fronted as a minimum bid to endorse certain open standards for the spectrum being sold. This is essentially a move to shut out smaller possible competitors while also maximizing the money the auction will generate for the grade-A areas of the spectrum. In addition, any single bidder wishing to purchase the entirety of the spectrum must front a minimum of $10 billion. 'According to the FCC, nearly all of that C block aggregate reserve price will go toward a package of U.S. national licenses. This portion of the spectrum also happens to be the one with two open access conditions attached to its sale mandating that all devices be allowed to access the band and that all applications can be able to run across the network. If the reserve price isn't met, the auction will be rerun without these two conditions in place, according to the FCC.'"

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  1. Not really shutting out smaller competitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I.e., if you wouldn't have the money to bid up and up, then you wouldn't be in the same competition anyway.

    Although, to be fair, it might force the bidding war to be shorter -- but knocking out the competition right from the start because they can't afford it doesn't really affect the final outcome. It just forces the bids to be realistic from the start.

    So much political agenda on ./ these days

    1. Re:Not really shutting out smaller competitors by niceone · · Score: 4, Funny

      does fccBay operate under significantly different rules from eBay?

      Some things are a bit different. Like they don't display the % of positive/negative feedback, or they'd never manage to sell anything :)

    2. Re:Not really shutting out smaller competitors by jratcliffe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nope, it's not like eBay - the bidding goes on until nobody wants to increase their bid. The bids go in rounds - one round per day, to begin with. If nobody bids on a particular license in (I believe) two consecutive rounds, then bidding on that license is complete. Once things get very close to being done, and only a few licenses are still outstanding (i.e. up in the air), the FCC can accelerate the process to 2 or 3 rounds per day, to bring the entire process to a close.

  2. n00bs by Experiment+626 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why are they setting a minimum bid? They should just start it at $0.01 and keep saying "reserve not met" until it passes the $4,600,000,000.00 point.

  3. Bad Move by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This reminds me of the auction for UMTS licenses that were held in the Netherlands a few years ago. This was back in the mad days when investors and corporations paid silly prices for cable and telco companies. UMTS was the next big thing, and companies were eager to bid for the licenses. So, politicians ended up congratulating each other on how much money they raked in for the public coffers... and companies suddenly found themselves so strapped for cash that they no longer had the money to invest in the expensive rollout of UMTS itself, or even for interim technologies such as EDGE. We were stuck in the stone age with GPRS, and when UMTS finally appeared on the market, it was years late, with lousy coverage, and the plans were horribly expensive (at first it wasn't even available to consumers; only to corporate subscribers). The auctions set back the development of our telco infrastructure by years.

    People in favour of these auctions seem to forget that companies are not in it for charity, and investors like to see a reasonable return on the money they put in. The cash for these licenses have to come from someone, and that someone is you, the dumbass consumer.

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    1. Re:Bad Move by Yer+Mum · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The same also happened in the UK.

      In European countries where they held a 'beauty contest' (operators bid less money but also had to promise to roll out services and coverage) the result was decent services from the start at cheap price for the end consumer. E.g. Norway.

  4. Re:Use of this frequency by tgatliff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    700mhz is an almost ideal frequency. Its is low enough to penetration buildings (Unlike Ghz), but is still high enough that shadowing would not be a problem like with the lower frequencies...

    To me, the company that is really missing the boat on this is M$. Their cash holdings trump anything Google can come up with and could easily buy the entire frequency map. The uses for this are endless... Iridium v2 I think are the best idea from a longtimer standpoint. They could sell low cost packages where you put a small dish on your house and get basic services for free. Then have an access point built directly into the unit... Instant national WiFi coverage!! :-)

  5. Re:Listing Fees by LunaticTippy · · Score: 5, Funny

    eBay isn't going to make jack.

    Purchase price: $0.01
    Shipping: $4,899,999,999.99

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  6. Re:What they are selling by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What you have to understand is that the purpose of the FCC is to take complete and absolute control as possible of the natural resource of the EM spectrum, and make that resource available to corporations to resell to the citizens at a profit, as well as carve off a few chunks for the government to use any way they like.

    The citizens are only allowed the tiniest possible token portions of the resource, with usage of those portions additionally limited in many critical ways. They do all this under the guise of "protecting" the resource.

    Once you wrap your head around this, everything the FCC does makes sense.

    The FCC probably qualifies as one of the most corrupt agencies of the US government in the sense that what it does is extremely disjoint from the actual interests and needs of the public, and intentionally so. The US government is supposed to serve the interests of the people, not the corporations.

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  7. Re:Backwards by Tacvek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If goggle buys this, I can be almost certain that it will be used to create a nationwide Wireless network, probably a "broadband" network.
    The problem with the current systems are that only the existing cell companies can get into the business. There is no real way for a competitor to enter the market. Further, in general only approved devices can be used on the network (although the GSM networks are the exception). The companies can dictate what the network can be used for. As a result, Cellular internet prices are outrageous, and unfair.

    So what Google would do is but the spectrum. They would standardize on a protocol. They would let companies provide services (most likely internet services) on that band. The companies offering services on that band would be required to let any devices that support the protocol to be used (likely a SIM-card like system would be used). The companies could not restrict the applications or services used on the network. Smaller companies would have a much better chance to get in on the action, as the major requirements would be an antenna on a cell tower, and a large internet connection. They would only need to provide the end users with a SIM, as the modems could be gotten anywhere. The total overhead of providing 700 MHz internet access would be far less than the traditional cell system, and thus there would be significant competition, and low prices.

    The key here is that the spectrum owner has no interest in providing the service themselves, and has no reason to sell out to the large companies. So they would have no problem allowing multiple companies to provide the service in the same area. That is not heard of for most utilities. Also, unlike cell phones, the companies competing in the local area would not conspire to fix prices, as the cost of entrance would be low enough that a new player could easily join in.

    If I am correct about that, that would be the sort of thing the government should do. That sort of regulation would level the playing field, and thus allow capitalism to work well both for businesses and for consumers. That would be the sort of regulation that is ideal. Unfortunately all too often, government regulation works to make the playing field less even, in the favor of the entrenched large companies that are already working in that sector.

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  8. Re:Need to take them to court. Airwave freedom by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Belongs to the public. The public needs to fight to regain the airwaves.

    The public never lost its property rights to those airwaves, we simply elected to rent them out to the highest bidder so that the proceeds of that auction could be used to fund the purchase other goods and services that we the public wish to conusme rather than attempting to operate them directly ourselves with all of the risks and costs that that entails. The government, acting on behalf of and in the interest of the people, is our agent in that sale. Now, you might argue that the government is squandering the proceeds or not getting the best possible price, but really we never lost control of the airwaves.

    Spectrum shouldn't be held hostage for filling government coffers.

    The government coffers are really *our* coffers in that the government uses this money to provide us with public goods that we like to consume. If the government did not receive this money from the auctions then it would have to raise the cash necessary to provide these public goods in other less desirable ways, such as raising taxes.

    We could have very cheap phones for everyone. Not with ATT guy running the FCC.

    Selling the right to use the spectrum at auction and then allowing the market with competition to decide the outcome yields the best and most fair result for everyone. You will have your cheap phone for everyone much faster, and at a much better price, from the market than you would from government control and central planning. Remember here that wireless spectrum is not entangled in "natural monopoly" scenarios with last mile physical infrastructure problems so the market is much more able to reach the optimal result more quickly than might be the case in fiber optic or cables and other utilities.

  9. Re:Need to take them to court. Airwave freedom by zymano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The public doesn't own the airwaves. It's owned by corporate america because they are the only ones that can afford the ridiculous auction prices. What would happen to the average citizen if they broadcast something on unused piece of spectrum owned by the private sector? If you guessed thrown to jail, you would be right.

    The government coffers are really *our* coffers in that the government uses this money to provide us with public goods that we like to consume. If the government did not receive this money from the auctions then it would have to raise the cash necessary to provide these public goods in other less desirable ways, such as raising taxes.

    You may find it shocking but maybe our government spends money excessively just to buy votes. Some political experts do suggest this as happening. And if the government is so good with our money then lets give them 'all' of our money. That would surely solve all of our problems.

    Selling the right to use the spectrum at auction and then allowing the market with competition to decide the outcome yields the best and most fair result for everyone. You will have your cheap phone for everyone much faster, and at a much better price, from the market than you would from government control and central planning. Remember here that wireless spectrum is not entangled in "natural monopoly" scenarios with last mile physical infrastructure problems so the market is much more able to reach the optimal result more quickly than might be the case in fiber optic or cables and other utilities.

    Creating a monopoly for just 'ONE COMPANY' to horde spectrum does not equal the free market. The gov makes makes a buck and that doesn't always filter down to average Joe citizen

    A better idea is to free and democrotize our spectrum much like the internet or even better than the internet.

  10. Re:What they are selling by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Quit regurgitating what you read on Slashdot all the time and say something insightful.

    Regurgitating, eh? I'm an extra class amateur radio operator and I hold an FCC commercial radio operator's license (used to be a first class license, guess it still is, sort of, though they don't give them out any longer.) My name is found in more than one edition of the radio amateur's handbook as an innovator, I received technical achievement of the year from a television group at the Dayton hamvention, and some of well known ham radio manufacturer AEA's commercial products were of my design, as well as my responsibility to get tested for FCC approval. My designs have been on the front cover of 73 and reviewed extensively in 73, CQ, and QST magazines - and elsewhere. I've been the engineer at several 10kw through 100kw radio stations, I've been a DJ (progressive rock), and I've even had my fingers in pirate radio a couple of times. Also related to all this, I'm a musician and a recording engineer.

    So it could just possibly be that I might have my own informed opinion on these matters, rather than just parroting what you appear to think is mindless slashdot groupthink. Now, for your edification, Here's a short (and woefully incomplete) list of things I can't do for the "common good" by specific FCC edict:

    • Set up a commercial radio station without paying six to seven figures, plus lawyer fees
    • Transmit music. Even my own original works.
    • Broadcast a book to entertain. Even those I own all the rights to (over two hundred, my father was a popular SF author.)
    • Transmit encrypted content
    • Broadcast rather than transmit to specific licensed individuals
    • Transmit what is loosely called "offensive content" which is anti-liberty and offensive to any true patriot in and of itself - you don't like a broadcast, tune the heck away, don't silence it like a pitiful, cowardly third world dictator.)
    • Innovate with wireless data transfer (no encryption and no freedom of content, so...)
    • Create a clocked device for sale without paying a lab ten grand (or more) for testing, plus more in fees to the FCC itself
    • Transmit an FM broadcast band/mode signal more than 3 meters (outright useless.)
    • Compete with any commercial radio entity

    And of course, the amateur radio bands that I am allowed to transmit upon are only available to me because I have passed several technical tests according to the requirements of the FCC; your average citizen has no access to the amateur bands as you should know, and so you cannot hold up the amateur bands as a resource for Joe or Jane blow to do anything in particular with. Not that they are very useful what with all the restrictions on what we can do with them, anyway.

    I think that you and I fundamentally disagree on what the phrase "common good" actually means.

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