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Sys Admin Magazine Ceases Publication

keithl writes "I received a postcard in the mail today informing me that Sys Admin magazine has ceased publication. 'We regret to inform you that the magazine has ceased publication effective with the August 2007 issue.' Only paid subscribers with remaining issues receive this mailing. If you do nothing, they will send you a copy of the Sys Admin archive CD (1992 – August 2007), or you can return the card for a full refund of all unsent issues. The deadline to return the postcard for a refund is October 1, 2007." The magazine's Web site has no word that I could find on the closing down of print publication.

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  1. shrug. another death of old media. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Magazines simply can't compete with the interactivity and frequency of websites and blogs. The model is dying so all special interest magazines are feeling the pinch.

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    1. Re:shrug. another death of old media. by BrookHarty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree, there are Linux and Linux developer magazines that are pretty good, and sell for 10 to 20 bux with DVDs of utils. (Some are from the UK too) Also, CPU magazine is pretty good and popular tech mag.

      I don't think sys-admin had the top writers, stories or indepth sys-admin howtos and the price was too low to keep up with its small reader base. Plus it wasn't on store shelves like the linux magazines.

      But then, I'm not all too happy with the loss of newsgroups and the migration to web forums, use to be 1 place to read or search, now its a dozen websites or mailing lists. Harder to find that small obscure piece of info you need. Plus if you broaden your search beyond 1 subject, you could have to read and subscribe to hundreds of site. Freaking absurd.

    2. Re:shrug. another death of old media. by catmistake · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Paper media is an expensive thing

      Actually, paper is pretty cheap. Its moving paper around that gets expensive. Distribution accounts for ~80% of the cost of all printed periodicals. This is why publishers were really exited about startups (c.2001) like Kiosk and Newsstand, because it would allow them to deliver the same content digitally (not web pages, but display documents looking identical to the printed edition) and cut out distribution costs almost entirely. Also, the only entity making money off of subscriptions is the subscriptions manager... money from print media comes from advertising.
    3. Re:shrug. another death of old media. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh. I'm so lucky. This is the 2nd time a magazine ceases publication as soon as I get to publish an article (I wrote the 'OpenPGP for http' article of the last SAMag issue). Awesome. Will you please write an article for PC World and PC Mag? Thanks!
  2. it was probably the swimsuit issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...bad idea.

  3. on that general topic by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    1. Re:on that general topic by eln · · Score: 3, Funny

      Holy crap, the Weekly World News is gone?! What kind of God would allow that to happen?

      Screw Sysadmin magazine, civilized society cannot survive without the sheer awesomeness of the Weekly World News. Where will I go for my weekly Batboy update now? Oh, the injustice of it all!

  4. Wow.... by Itninja · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...that sucks. I hadn't heard anything about this. I actually subscribe to this magazine, and find (check that, found) it very helpful. I think if they had developed a way to digitally copy/paste text from the paper to my application, that would have save them. So many times I have said 'this code is really great. I'll just select it all and...oh wait... DAMMIT!'.

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    1. Re:Wow.... by gpw213 · · Score: 3, Informative
      Can anyone with a sub give us the exact wording/page number, please?

      Here it is, from page 4:

      This is the last issue of Sys Admin magazine that you will receive. The magazine is ceasing publication as of this issue.

      The is often a large measure of regret and sadness when a long-term relations ends, and I feel these emotions now at the end of my relationship with Sys Admin. No other publication really does what Sys Admin does, but you probably already know that. You might not know, however, the challenges currently facing many print publications, particularly small niche ones like Sys Admin. These challenges, which have contributed to the decision to stop publishing the magazine, include circulation woes, online competition, and market shift. I take some small comfort in the fact that Sys Admin fought these battles and survived much longer than many others in similar circumstances.

      I have worked for Sys Admin magazine for almost 12 years, and I've had a great time. So, in this note, I need to mention some of the many people who have made working for Sys Admin such a rewarding experience for me. In no particular order, I thank Hal Pomeranze, Joe Casad, Ralph Barker, and Robert Ward for making me seem smarter than I really am. I thank Rikki Endsley Kite for therapy shopping, making me do things that scare me, and being a fabulous friend. I thank Lori White and Twyla Watson Bogaard for always reminding me that life goes down better with humor. I thank the regular columnists and writers for their loyalty and consistently excellent articles, and I thank all the readers and contributors for making Sys Admin as successful as it was for as long as it was.

      Good-bye and good luck.

      Sincerely yours,

      Amber Ankerholz
      Editor in Chief

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  5. I saw it on the newstands a lot... by JoeCommodore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But never bought it because all the issues I saw were like double issues in a plastic sleeve, so I could never check out the content. Pity, it looked interesting but not enough by just reading the cover.

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  6. End of publication was noted in last issue... by kgasso · · Score: 4, Informative

    This was mentioned in a little blurb in the August 2007 edition; I guess a lot of people may have missed it if they're sending out postcards (I didn't notice it until the second time I thumbed through the magazine). From the looks of it, they won't be simply switching away from a paper format, but just ending the magazine all together.

    Kind of a bummer, I've been reading it for years -- since before I actually started my career as an SA and was only tinkering with BSD and this newfangled Linux thing...

  7. what's up? by ILuvRamen · · Score: 2

    does the card you're supposed to send back ask for your bank account number? Lol if their real website doesn't mention a word about it, that's just too strange for this not to be some sort of fake. Can anyone confirm this not being a scam?

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    1. Re:what's up? by rnturn · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're to place the little postcard in an envelope and mail it back to the magazine if you want the refund. No banking information should be needed. I expect you'd get a check for the remainder of your subscription. Me? I'm opting for the CD. I've been a subscriber since the second year of publication and the CD will let me get my hands on the first year's issues. I expect there to be some useful stuff even in those issues. What's old is new again and all that.

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  8. Eh... by msimm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know about that. I'd typically buy Linux Journal. Sys Admin felt almost like a weekly, although side-by-side I'd say Sys Admin was actually the better magazine (but Linux Journal caters to a wider audience..). I think Sys Admin simply missed the boat by not jumping onto the Linux bandwagon. Too bad, I always meant to get a subscription so I wouldn't be lured by the beefier Linux Magazines (with their end-user content, soft surveys and advertising).

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    1. Re:Eh... by eln · · Score: 5, Interesting

      sysadmin magazine was a good idea in theory, and I have read a few of their (print) issues, but it always seemed like they were shooting for too much of a novice crowd. They did highlight some interesting things, but the articles were rarely very in-depth, and the code snippets were usually pretty basic. I had contemplated getting a subscription a few times, but it seemed like 90% of any issue would be basic stuff I already knew or could easily figure out on my own. A junior sysadmin may be able to learn a lot from the magazine, but probably not anyone at a higher level than that.

      For a magazine that was supposed to be geared toward professional sysadmins, I would have liked to see some more hard-core technical content, including some actual code magic rather than "magic" that anyone with experience in the language would find very basic. I would have rather seen more kernel tuning and less "sorting your calendar in PHP" crap.

      Maybe they were hitting at exactly the wrong spot: their focus was too narrow to be an overview type of magazine, but it was too broad to really get into the nitty gritty of any one thing.

    2. Re:Eh... by poopie · · Score: 5, Funny

      it always seemed like they were shooting for too much of a novice crowd.


      That's because the true UNIX sysadmin gurus already know everything.
    3. Re:Eh... by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

      I knew that.

  9. The news was in the last issue too by dagnabit · · Score: 5, Informative

    The editor put the news in the final issue as well, which was mailed out a couple of weeks ago. I'll be looking for my postcard now though - thanks for the heads-up!

    While it's true that printed media has a hard time competing with online resources, SysAdmin was one of the few magazines I looked forward to reading cover to cover each month, so I'm sad to see them closing up shop.

    It's nice to have information "pushed" to you sometimes; I learned several things over the years on topics I probably would never have gone looking for on my own.

  10. Why limit to one audience? by khasim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've often wondered why magazines aren't formated for the different levels of expertise. Why not have the first 1/3'rd of the magazine devoted to beginner articles. The 2nd devoted to intermediate articles and the last 3rd devoted to expert material?

    That way you'd appeal to every range in your audience AND your magazines would be worth keeping.

    1. Re:Why limit to one audience? by sconeu · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're a bridge player, that's exactly how ACBL handles the Bridge Bulletin.

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    2. Re:Why limit to one audience? by king-manic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've often wondered why magazines aren't formated for the different levels of expertise. Why not have the first 1/3'rd of the magazine devoted to beginner articles. The 2nd devoted to intermediate articles and the last 3rd devoted to expert material?

      Probably because no one wants to pay for a magazine that only has 1/3 of it dedicated to you. Actually less then 1/3 more like 1/6 because most magazines are 1/2 ads.

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  11. Has been known since June. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Death of Sys Admin Magazine was quietly announced on june 13. by the parent company, CMP, in a subsentence.

    http://cmp.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1722

    A few days later, I got a polite letter saying they wouldn't be needing the article I'd proposed for publication.

  12. Ceased Computer Publications by NullProg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It happens when user requirements are satisfied and/or shift.

    A better question is:
    Do you read the issues and throw them away or do read and save them for reference like me (a devout computer publication pack rat)?

    My defunct publication list (all of which I still have),

    Nibble (one of my favorites),
    Compute,
    Compute Apple,
    Incider,
    A+,
    C Users Journal (turned into C/C++ Users Journal),
    Computist (one of my favorites),
    Byte (now online, content not worth the fee).

    I also subscribed to Omni and Final Frontier, both great magazines, now defunct.

    I currently just subscribe to Dr Dobbs Journal (still great after a 20 year subscribtion (damn Im getting old)), and Linux Journal.

    Enjoy,

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    1. Re:Ceased Computer Publications by trolltalk.com · · Score: 3, Funny

      "My defunct publication list (all of which I still have),"

      (extensive list)

      Sounds like having you as a subscriber is the magazine equivalent of the "click of death!" Could you do us a favour and subscribe to all those *wonderful* government publications, like tax notices, etc? And Bush's speeches?

    2. Re:Ceased Computer Publications by brassman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Usenix used to gave away 1-year subs to SysAdmin to conference attendees -- and I was roundly confused and annoyed when they switched to giving away subscriptions to Dr.Dobbs instead.

      Why would a sysadmin be interested in articles about "how to cripple the Windows software you're writing by requiring hardware dongles"?

      (For that matter, why would a Windows programmer want to read it? It failed spectacularly some twenty years ago, and good riddance to it.)

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  13. reminds me of BYTE by Roadmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looks like the magazine's parent company, CMP media, has little faith in paper publications, preferring to focus their efforts on online material. However they are following this trend in a manner that hurts publications with real followings and a lot of history. Before sysadmin, it was the Perl Journal and venerable BYTE magazine that got the axe; I was particularly irked by Byte because it happened 4 months after I subscribed.

    Someone from CMP did contact me about my problems when I complained (here on Slashdot, of all places!) and I realize that there are people within the company who really care about their customers and want to keep us satisfied. However it's obvious that someone up high, making the decisions, is making them with the sole intent of increasing profit, not pleasing customers. It's a business; they're entitled, but they should consider the "political" cost of taking measures such as axing established and very reputable publications.

  14. unnecessary by unger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i used to subscribe to this magazine. reading it was by far my favorite way to enhance my IT knowledge--something i need to do daily in this industry.

    i stopped my subscription when i decided to stop paying for dead tree media--an ecological decision.

    i contacted the Sys Admin publisher and told them many many times that i was willing to pay *twice* their subscription price if they would make the magazine available digitally because i did't want a dead tree version. they told me in many different ways, no can do.

    i'm not kidding when i say i contacted them many times and "climbed the ladder" speaking to various higher-ups. everytime i was met with what i would describe as a lack of vision. i was given every reason in the book as to why offering Sys Admin digitally via the internet would kill their revenue stream. unbelievable to me in the face of me telling them that i was willing to them pay double their subscription price (heck, i probably would have paid more).

    imho, Sys Admin had a chance to become a (possibly THE) premier _profitable_ digital resource for IT folks. what got in their way was their lack of vision--their inability to re-imagine themselves.

    R.I.P. Sys Admin

    P.S.
    if there are any flickering embers in the Sys Admin ashes, if someone takes up the reins and makes the rag digital i'm still willing to pony up good money for a subscription (and i suspect many others would be too).

  15. a sad day but by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 2, Funny

    I still have the first four issues wrapped up in plastic. Hopefully they'll be worth something on ebay one day.

  16. Neglect by not_hylas(+) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Neglected, pure and simple.
    They had the platform, the had the forum, they had an audience.
    When it came to subscribe once again, I had to think - has this magazine answered, delivered, proposed anything of consequence? [not counting Amy's column]
    It was supposed to be about UNIX (?), not just Solaris.

    http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Opera ting_Systems/Unix/

    System Administrators want answers about the OS. [and the sum thereof]
    I wanted Sys Admin to give me configuration tips, tuning tricks ... insight.
    I WANT magazines, not PDFs, I want something to refer back to, in these last few years I just skimmed it, read Amy Rich, then it went straight to the shelf.
    It's too bad.
    I liked the idea of the magazine, but they suffered neglect, from staff and ultimately reader interest alike.

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  17. This is quite sad - but then again maybe not ? by slincolne · · Score: 4, Interesting
    When I first saw this posting I was quite disappointed. My previous employer paid for my subscription, and over the years I found it to be timely, useful, and topical. The fact that the issues were organised on a themed basis (eg this month security, next month storage, etc) made it far more useful and interesting to read than many of its competitors.

    The fact that the magazine called for papers from its readers, rather than simply pay a small group of contributors for whatever they could scrawl out in a month seemed to deliver better quality articles - I suspect this is something similar to more academic journals. I always had a good deal more faith in their articles than in any other periodicals I read.

    The idea of a web based version on the surface seems like a good idea. However, based on other postings on this thread this does not look like something that will take off with CMP.

    Doesn't this leave an opportunity for someone else to step in ?

    If you think about this, if CMP are discontinuing the magazine, then the only remaining assets of value are their website, subscriber list, stock of backissue CD's, and possibly any articles in their library that have not yet been published. Maybe there is an opportunity for someone ( eg OSDN - hint hint) to talk to CMP and see if they can buy the domain. That, coupled with the potential use of their subscriber email list, could be an opportunity to develop a web based publication of similar quality (you know - one with editors that dupe check, spell check, fact check, etc) to fill the void.

    Sell advertising in the publications, pay people to review the content before it's release to subscribers, and do it while people remember that the magazine actually existed.

    Irrespective of the delivery method, I believe that there is still a need for such a publication. If it was priced in the same market as some of the other electronic magazines (eg Linux Journal) it may work.

    I'd buy it.