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The Mindset of the Class of 2029

theodp writes "In response to Beloit College's 10th Annual Mindset List, which takes a stab at describing the worldview of the incoming Class of 2011 (grew up with bottled water; have always had the World Wide Web), Valleywag's Nick Douglas presages The Mindset of the Class of 2029 (have always been able to use a cell phone on a plane; 'Lord of the Rings' looks fake and the effects are laughable)."

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  1. Kiwi Mindset lists by echucker · · Score: 2, Informative
  2. Re:an oldie but a goodie by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Who/what the hell is ESR???

    a nobody that pretends to be somebody. Move along, nothing to see here.

  3. Re:an oldie but a goodie by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Informative
  4. Ignores the big picture on exponential computing by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2, Informative

    Computers are increasing by a factor of about 1000X in performance per
    price per decade. By the time any toddler of today is finishing
    graduate school, computers will be about 1000X (for the first decade)
    multiplied (not added) by 1000X (for the second decade) or about
    a million times faster than they are now -- just like computers are
    about a million times faster than twenty to thirty years ago (at
    constant dollars, or so MIPS per $). Related links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law
    http://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0134.html?pr intable=1
    http://www.bootstrap.org/dkr/discussion/0126.html
    http://www.transhumanist.com/volume1/moravec.htm
    (The rate of exponential growth itself is even increasing!)
    According to that last link, those AI computers had about 1 MIPS
    processing power. (And it's a funny idea Hans Moravec had, and I think
    correct, that only for the last decade or so has AI been taking
    advantage of faster desktop CPUs going beyond 1 MIPS..)

    As an example, compare the late 1970s Apple II
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II
    with todays' (2007) eight core Mac Pro.
    http://www.apple.com/macpro/
    Then --> Now (approximate increase)
    CPU: 1 Mhz --> 8 * 3 Ghz (8000X faster, but about another 100X internal
    improvements from wider data operations and pipelining and such).
    (somewhere in x100000 to x1000000)
    RAM: 4K --> 4GB RAM just starting to be common. (x1000000)
    Disk: 300K disks --> 300 gigabyte disks. (x1000000)
    And all for about the same price (adjusted for inflation).
    Some other considerations:
    Bandwidth: 11 bytes/sec modem at $10 / hour --> 800000 bytes/second by
    cable at $60 / month (about x10000 faster, well that doesn't quite fit,
    but its still a big improvement -- and if you factor in the cost for
    continuous access, there is probably another 10x or 100X boost in there,
    producing effectively close to a x1000000 improvement of price/performance)
    Printing: about 1000 characters per minute for $1200 printer -> 10 pages
    per minute each with millions of color pixels -- with the printer often
    now free with the computer (not sure how to call this as a multiple,
    since quality has changed so much).

    So, here are possible specs for a personal computer of 2027 if it was a
    million times faster than today's:
    CPU: 8 * 3 Ghz --> 8000 X 3 THz (1000X more CPUs each 1000X faster,
    though I think it likely such systems might just instead have a million
    processors at about today's speeds, perhaps interweaving memory and
    processing power)
    RAM: 4GB --> 4000TB (enough to hold all of the current surface internet
    in RAM, see:
    http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/research/projects/ho w-much-info-2003/internet.htm
    )
    See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte
    for MB, GB, TB, PB, EB series and their meaning
    DISK: 300GB --> 300PB (which is 300,000 TB)
    For reference, a DVD movie uncompressed is about 5GB.
    Note that, according to:
    http://elegans.uky.edu/blog/?p=49
    300 TB would allow you to record your entire life in video for 16hr/day
    for 100 years at 500MB/hr. So you could do that for 1000 people on just
    your own $3000 2027AD personal computer. Or you could just perhaps store
    the interesting bits of life video for perhaps a hundred thousand people
    or so. Needless to say,

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.