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How To Address A Visit from MPAA Senior VP Rich Taylor?

tedswiss writes "Fate has dropped a unique opportunity upon my lap: I teach at a moderately small independent school who has as one of its alums Richard Taylor. Mr. Taylor is both speaking at our start-of-year festivities and being honored with this year's "Distinguished Alum Award." Having followed and been disgusted by the MPAA's corporate practices regarding DRM and government lobbying in the past (Anyone remember DeCSS?), I would love to make his visit a chance to truly educate our student body, not just indoctrinate them. The school administration is sympathetic to my plight, but I want to present them with more than just my complaints. How would you best make use of this opportunity if you found yourself in my shoes?"

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  1. Teamwork by Raindance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suppose it depends on the opportunities and contexts you have access to (what classes you teach, whether you can hold a seminar or discussion panel before/after his address, etc). But my primary advice would be:

    Be respectful. Think teamwork. Don't try to rain on the parade the college is throwing for him. Nobody will thank you for that. Not that you seem to be leaning that way, but it bears mentioning on Slashdot.

    Consider sitting down with Mr. Taylor privately (asap, if it'll be in addition to other things). The article you linked said he seems willing to take outside concerns seriously. It sure seems that he could be a great resource in 1. getting the MPAA to take consumer/citizen concerns more seriously, and 2. helping educate the student body about what's at stake here (on both sides).

    Perhaps you could set up a panel on intellectual property/DRM while he's in town (you, him, maybe some other relevant folks), and invite the student body. Man, I'd love to go to that.

    1. Re:Teamwork by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just let him do his talk, usher him out of the building with a nice certificate, and leave it at that. The MPAA isn't going to change its ways because you had a talk with this guy. You'd be wasting your time talking to him privately, and would embarass your school if you went after him publicly.

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    2. Re:Teamwork by blhack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      His point isn't to change the mind of the MPAA, it is to prevent the MPAA from indoctrinating his students with their views on the matter (or rather, indoctrinate them with his own). No offense, but I HATE it when people claim to be "helping the children" by "telling them the real story". So often that "real story", is a bunch of bias garbage that ends up hurting them 10 fold when the reach adulthood. They end up having a completely warped view of reality (at least warped relative to the their peers; even if they are right, they are stilling playing with a handicap). For instance, lets say that we took a group of elementary aged kids and taught that that IP was a totally evil concept. To US (adults) that is okay because we have grown up around IP and understand the reason that it needs to be changed; however, if you teach somebody that has no frame of reference that IP is evil, they won't understand why. This will end up actually hurting them in the long run. People need the ability to come to their own conclusions. People who try and let their kids skip that whole "experience" thing, and jump right into the understanding part are doing their children a great injustice.

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    3. Re:Teamwork by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We're talking about a bunch of kids that probably download episodes of their favorite TV shows, so I doubt very much that some MPAA mouthpiece is going to make them burn their DVD burners, shave their heads and begin worshipping Hollywood.

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  2. Don't be a jerk by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously.

    Somebody more powerful than you thought it a good idea to bestow this honor on him. I wouldn't ruin the ceremony by sandbagging him. Perhaps you could invite him to your class to discuss some issues but I wouldn't use this opportunity to harangue him and make yourself look like a whiny prick in the process.

    1. Re:Don't be a jerk by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somebody more powerful, yes, but not necessarily someone more intelligent.
      That is the formula for the bulk of decision-making throughout history.
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  3. Don't be a jerk. by wheatwilliams · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The word that worries me in your discussion above is where you say that you have been "disgusted" with the Motion Picture Association's activities.

    If you've got a distinguished and influential guest addressing your class, you need to show him respect.

    You are not in the business of making or financing motion pictures or record albums, so you have no real stake in the argument. It does not affect your ability to earn a living and feed your family one way or another. Richard Taylor, on the other hand, speaks for tens of thousands of people who earn their livings making and financing motion pictures and record albums. He wants to present their point of view, and he knows what he is talking about.

    So show some class, act like a gentleman, and make sure your students are respectful as well.

    You won't convince or influence anybody with scorn and invective. If you listen to Richard Taylor, you might learn a few things and better understand his point of view.

    1. Re:Don't be a jerk. by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you've got a distinguished and influential guest addressing your class, you need to show him respect.

      Why? Respect is something that must be earned, and people devoid of ethics deserve none.

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    2. Re:Don't be a jerk. by cybermage · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Respect is something that must be earned

      That notion is one of the problems with today's society. Respect should be afforded to everyone until they prove themselves unworthy of it. Now, in this case, respect may not be deserved; but, no respect for others should not be your default stance.

  4. Why do they make pirated products more attractive? by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I've always wondered about companies that require DRM on their products is simply this: why do they insist on making their paying customers suffer, which those that don't bother supporting the content creators get a more convenient product?

    With movies, the pirated version usually jumps straight to the movie without going through previews or FBI warnings. It doesn't include slow, time-wasting menus. It doesn't force you to skip by commercials for other movies. It just gets you to the product and lets you view it with minimum hassle.

    As an added bonus, the pirated version doesn't prevent me from transcoding to a format my iPod can support or prevent me from storing it on my computer and streaming it via my TiVo. If I ever get an XBox360 or a PS3, I can stream them to that too.

    With a DRM-encumbered movie, I can't do any of that.

    Why do they insist on giving their paying customers a product that's simply worse than the pirated version? Why do they think we'll put up with it?

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  5. Re:Ask him if he stole his car. by E++99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I ever saw someone behave in that manner, I would have to assume that whatever their point was, they couldn't possibly be right.

  6. Trust your students by Garwulf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've read through a lot of the ideas on here, and I figure it might be worthwhile to throw some of my own words into the mix.

    There are a lot of anarchists on here - they don't like to be called that, but that's what they are. There are a lot of people who wouldn't know copyright law if it hit them in the face, but insist on speaking out as though they're authorities on it. There are people here who are quiet and informed, and quiet and uninformed. There are informed brawlers, soft-spoken lawyers, writers, programmers, and pirates. And, there are a lot of people who would push their own agenda on anything that comes their way, even to the detriment of you and your class.

    Trust none of them.

    Your students are about to meet somebody who is at the heart of one of the major social issues of our time. Get them reading up on it, make sure they're reading both sides of the issue, and then leave it in their hands. Don't put your trust in Slashdot, or some online forum - if you do that, you're putting it into the hands of a bunch of people who you've probably never met, and who may not even be who they say they are. Put your trust in your students - give them what they need to be informed, and then trust them to understand it (and if they disagree with your conclusions, keep in mind that YOU could be the one who misunderstood something). The most important part of education in the end, the part that ultimately can save you from something terrible, is learning to think critically for yourself and make up your own mind. Let them do that.

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  7. Re:With such a visit by Minwee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just remember that a man who was the senior vice president for external affairs of the MPAA has probably heard all of your questions before and has a prepared response for each of them. Be prepared to have your questions dismissed without any kind of real answer and quite possibly twisted around into something completely different. Read old interviews with him, watch videos. Try to get an idea of what to expect.

    If a professional weasel with his background and in his position lets himself get blind-sided by a couple of University students with an obvious axe to grind then, first off, something is very wrong with the world.

    And secondly, if you think that's what really happened, count your fingers. And your toes. And review exactly what was said by whom, and ask yourself if you have any way of proving it.

  8. Re:Hmmm. by wharlie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't "ask" him anything, we all know his stance on copyright.
    You and your students should take this oppourtunity to politely "tell" him your views on how copyright affects you.
    He probably never gets a chance to hear from "real" people.
    Make sure that you consider your comments carefully before making your opinion known.
    Do your research, have your comments prepared.
    For instance, instead of saying stuff like "MPAA rips off artists" say something like "I would be more likely to pay for material if it was distributed online DRM free".
    You never know, you may even have an affect on him, these are the people we need to convince, not annoy.