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Rick Rubin Discloses Sony Rootkit Called Home

caffeinemessiah writes "Rick Rubin, the legendary music producer, recently signed on as co-head of Columbia Records, which is owned by Sony BMG. In a recent New York Times interview (on pg. 4 of the online version), he discloses, possibly accidentally: 'It was the highest debut of Neil [Diamond]'s career, off to a great start. But Columbia — it was some kind of corporate thing — had put spyware on the CD. That kept people from copying it, but it also somehow recorded information about whoever bought the record...' Seems like the rootkit might have been a little more than your vanilla invade-your-rights-DRM scheme."

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  1. didn't we know this? by l2718 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The analysis of the trojan already showed that it phoned home. Of course the point of this was to gather data.

    1. Re:didn't we know this? by mpe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And again, I must ask... why wasn't anyone ARRESTED for this? If an individual had created and distributed such a program, he would be imprisoned for years and the 6 o'clock news would run a half a dozen segments along the lines of "Special Report : OMG TEH HACKERS CAN STEAL YOUR HARD DRIVE!". Why doesn't anyone care when a corporation does it?

      There is a distinct lack of prisons for "corporate people". Indeed the whole "corporations are people" meme just falls apart when it comes to criminal (as opposed to civil) law.
      It also dosn't help when the concept of "limited liability", something which was only intended to be relevent to a bankrupt company, is instead treated as a shield for the activities of what amount to criminal gangs.

  2. Re:root kit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Although somewhat difficult to understand at first, I find that as an allegory for DRM, your story works quite well.

  3. Dup by astrosmash · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's an interesting discussion on the same topic over here.

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  4. Slashdot proves you're wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    No, he's correct. You're wrong.

    http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/11/07/1221209.s html

    Sony Rootkit Phones Home

    strider44 writes "Mark from Sysinternals has digged a little deeper into the Sony DRM and discovered it Phones Home with an ID for the CD being listened to. XCP Support claims that "The player has a standard rotating banner that connects the user to additional content (e.g. provides a link to the artist web site). The player simply looks online to see if another banner is available for rotation. The communication is one-way in that a banner is simply retrieved from the server if available. No information is ever fed back or collected about the consumer or their activities."
    1. Re:Slashdot proves you're wrong. by kripkenstein · · Score: 4, Insightful

      BTW, i just read an article about Rubin (was it linked here yesterday?) that said he had never heard of Simon Cowell from American Idol up till last year or whatever. Now...not saying that Simon Cowell is anything great, but for a top record producer to have never heard of someone that familiar to everyone else...that's just weird.

      Rick Rubin not hearing about Simon Cowell is about the same as the chef de cuisine at a French restaurant not knowing what McDonald's is.
  5. Re:A simpler solution by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know, he might know plenty about systems. RJR and RMS are practically twins.

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  6. Neil Diamond proposed this scheme decades ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, one, touching one, reaching out
    Touching me, touching you...

  7. Won't affect anybody by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The number of people who own a computer, are technically smart enough to listen to music on it, and who listen to Neil Diamond, is zero.

    1. Re:Won't affect anybody by Detritus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Neil Diamond has more talent in his big toe than most of the artists that get airplay on American commercial radio. I'm not a fan of his style of music, but he is an excellent singer and songwriter.

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  8. Re:A simpler solution by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it didn't phone home, and Rick Rubin (a music producer, not a computer geek) just doesn't understand what the root kit did. Have you seen the way Rick Rubin looks? He could have easily fallen out of Richard Stallman's beard. When someone who looks like that tells me something, I listen. Or tell him I don't have any spare change; I guess it depends on what he says.
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  9. HOLY GOD!!!!! by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now that Sony knows the true identities of all the Neil Diamond fans, they can now complete their deathstar and will be the ultimate power in the universe!

  10. A brontosaurus standing on its head. by yusing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If they want him to "save the record business", the first thing they better do is lose the RIAA, and stop manufacturing that huge steaming pile of bad will.

    The industry's refusal to get into digital sales online was criminally stupid. Everyone told them that, and they just dug in. They're a brontosaurus standing on its head.

    We now know how they always worked; the truth is out there. You can feel it all over. If we ever did, we don't *need* them any more. We don't like them any more, and we don't like the homogenizing and genericizing of the sound. Artists need them for one thing only: marketing.Since they've been worse than useless for decades, they'll need a lot of re-org and a lot of giveaways and a lot of goodwill-mending to survive.

    I don't think they can; I hope they can't. Good riddance. I haven't bought a new RIAA product in five years; I won't pay $20 for a record I bought 20 years ago either. Personally I'll smile every time one of them buys it. They had their chance, and they gave us the finger.

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    1. Re:A brontosaurus standing on its head. by arkham6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bad will? Bad will? What bad will. You walk into any music store and ask a random person buying CD's if they like or dislike the RIAA, they are going to look at you blankly.

      Ask them what they think about the lawsuits being filed daily by the RIAA, and they will shrug and say "Yeah? So, i'm not getting sued, i don't care."

      Ask them if they are upset that there is a rootkit in that CD they are holding, the would probably not understand the ramifications.

      Face it, the American people care for their rights, up into the moment choosing between those rights and getting the newest, shiney toy.

  11. Re:oooh, data miner. by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because if Joe Hacker did this, and it comes back to Joe Hacker, Joe Hacker is arrested. Now when they go to Sony, they'll be met with a wall of lawyers. When fingers start being pointed, you'll get "I wasn't the person who authorized/conceived said issue. And no, we can't tell you who did. Talk to our lawyers".

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  12. Re:Misleading Title by shakestheclown · · Score: 4, Funny

    sounds like multi player Microsoft Bob to me...