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Companies Offer AAA Games For 'Free'

Both Ubisoft and EA are offering up free games to cash-conscious gamers this week. For the low, low cost of nothing you can play titles like Command and Conquer Gold, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, and Far Cry. The catch? Well, EA's offering is totally gratis; 1995's C&C Gold is a gift to gamers for supporting the series for all these years. The Ubisoft games, though, are only "free". They're available from Fileplanet in ad-supported format.

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  1. Free... by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 1, Informative

    to subscribers only.

    1. Re:Free... by Devistater · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, last I checked any fileplanet registration was enough to d/l these. I.e. the free registration, the one where most ppl make up thier login info?

    2. Re:Free... by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1

      Not quite, but before I could finish the Far Cry download it stopped and they disabled downloads of it. Admittedly, I'm in Canada, not the US, but here's what they said:

      All downloaded files which have not been activated are going to be made inactive through the ubi.com login. Previously, the ubi.com login would require a US country in order to install the game. Ubisoft will make the ubi.com login reject all entries into country. They hope to relaunch the program once we can add IP-blocking into our login process.
  2. Sort of like Valve? by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

    So, you take an old game that still has some interest, ad adds, then release it for free? Thats kind of like what Valve did for Counterstrike, only they forgot the 'free' part. They certainly nailed the ads though, both in game on walls and on the scoreboard.

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    1. Re:Sort of like Valve? by Thansal · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      set hl.exe to low priority, this should fix it.

      more on it here.

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    2. Re:Sort of like Valve? by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      So, you take an old game that still has some interest, ad adds, then release it for free?
      Add ads. Add ads. Look at it again. Add ads. Remember it. Wow.

  3. Re:First... by riffzifnab · · Score: 2, Funny
    Curse my lust for first postage. from tfa

    We are providing the original Command & Conquer Gold as a free download, compatible for Windows XP! Internet: Lots
    Me: -1
  4. According to TFA, yes... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently, if you burn the iso to a disc, and then follow these steps[.DOC warning], it works. I haven't verified this though.

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  5. For Posterity by tcolberg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These companies are finally allowing people to play these great, (some) historic games without the legal ambiguities of abandonware hanging around their neck. For us old farts and the occasional curious young gamer, being able to play C&C95 at any time is not only a great marketing tool for EA, but it is an important piece of gaming history that is now freely available. GJ to EA (for once) and Ubisoft. Oh, and not to snub Prince of Persia: I love PoP:SoT, which has a significant place in the history of platformers, and hope that it will eventually be phased to freeware (I understand the ads for now, due to bandwidth costs).

    1. Re:For Posterity by gaffle · · Score: 1

      If the bandwidth costs are such a big deal, why not just set these downloads up as torrents? The companies could easily ride on the bandwidth provided by the unstoppable force of p2p pirates (barring changes in the way downstream bandwidth is sold to consumers by ISPs of course...)

  6. Alternate links by MagicM · · Score: 1

    Alternate links, including one for Ghost Recon can be found here: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?thread id=597322

  7. Kudos for them by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Honestly, this is such a win-win, I don't know who companies don't do it more. You're not going to get significant revenue still selling these old titles, yet companies go after people for sharing 20 year old abandonware titles for some crazy reason.

    When EA gives a game like this away for free, they get good PR, and they possibly create a new audience to suddenly look at the sequels to these games if perhaps they might not have otherwise.

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    1. Re:Kudos for them by brainlessbob · · Score: 1

      Agree but the ad version of far cry wont work. Strange that the retail game works fine but ad-version does not. Would definently play it if the ad-version worked in wine as good as the retail one do, but i guess its the ads fault. So it leaves me with 2 options. Get the retail game or disable the ads and hope it works but that kinda ruins the point with the free game.

    2. Re:Kudos for them by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      You're not going to get significant revenue still selling these old titles

      True, but if you release your old titles for free, they'll essentially be competing for gamers' time with your new titles. And from a business perspective, it's more profitable to sell a new game to ten people than give away a decade-old one to a hundred people.

  8. Boo ads by Cervantes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Take a game that's already made it's money back, and probably sells all of 2 copies a month, but hey, let's make some more money from it! Always with the string attached. Dang money-grubbing companies. *sigh* I tell ya, as far as I can recall, there hasn't been a game released without strings since Guitar Hero.

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    1. Re:Boo ads by QMalcolm · · Score: 4, Funny

      'Guitar Hero' with strings would end up just being 'Guitar', I reckon.

    2. Re:Boo ads by Canthros · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're right. They totally remove the ads, and make it available for $$ or not at all.

      Honestly. You guys are a bunch of whiney, ungrateful jerks. The Ubisoft games aren't even that old--the Prince of Persia title's from 2003 and FarCry's from 2004, which puts them both in the $20 budget bin. And Rayman Raving Rabbids (which is conspicuously absent from the summary above) isn't even a year old. Seriously, what do you want for nothing?

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    3. Re:Boo ads by harrkev · · Score: 1

      Take a game that's already made it's money back, and probably sells all of 2 copies a month, but hey, let's make some more money from it! Always with the string attached. Dang money-grubbing companies. *sigh* I tell ya, as far as I can recall, there hasn't been a game released without strings since Guitar Hero.

      Activision gave away the original Zork trilogy as a way to help promote one of their graphical Zork adventures about a decade ago.

      Sierra used to do this very occasionally. They gave away "Betrayal at Krondor" (a surprisingly good game for the time) in order to promote the sequal "Betrayal at Antara."

      It does not happen often (or often enough), but it does happen.

      Are there any that I missed?

      PS: If I owned a game company, I would stick to a fixed schedule: Retail sales for the first five years. After that, stick it into a "best of" anthology. After ten years, freeware.
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    4. Re:Boo ads by brkello · · Score: 1

      You have to be kidding. Out of all the games out there you pick the one which is just one giant ad. It is not only an ad for the music, but all of the "realistic" touches they have like buying the guitar are all just cleverly placed ads. Don't get me wrong..I own the game and love it...but sheesh, open your eyes.

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    5. Re:Boo ads by Cervantes · · Score: 4, Funny

      Joke:   ->
      You:     O
              /|\
              / \

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    6. Re:Boo ads by DJNW · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The duke nukem 3D CD had all 3 of the previous duke CDs on it. sort of like the baen e-book thing, now I think of it

    7. Re:Boo ads by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      Oh I wish I had mod points for that... Awesome.

    8. Re:Boo ads by Rebelgecko · · Score: 1

      Cool! Will Duke Nukem forever also include copies of the previous games? I hope so, because I've already pre-ordered it and can't wait!

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    9. Re:Boo ads by the1rob · · Score: 1

      Actually, wouldn't it just be 'Hero'?

    10. Re:Boo ads by Snaller · · Score: 1

      "Seriously, what do you want for nothing?"

      Something we want. (And if there are adds, it is not for nothing)

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    11. Re:Boo ads by Canthros · · Score: 1

      Actually, since the oldest game under discussion is 12 years old and, hey!, it's the one that isn't ad-supported (the others are at most 4 years old), you'd be wrong on all counts. Well, unless your underlying argument is that copyright is bad, mm'kay, and should be abolished completely (but I think that's the other guy, so you get the benefit of the doubt).

      What I'm getting at is that these aren't, any of them, games that would be in the public domain if copyright limits were still what they were two hundred years ago, when they were still reasonable. The knee-jerk reaction here indicates that these companies would have been just as well off to keep these things to themselves and put you to the difficulty of either tracking down a used copy or re-releasing out of print games (i. e., the Command and Conquer game mentioned above) in exchange for your money. I don't mean to say that this should somehow earn EA your undying gratitude and appreciation, but I don't see how falling all over ourselves to claim that Ubisoft's attempt to release recent games for free on an ad-supported model is the worst thing ever is going to foster creativity. If it were me, I'd just figure there wasn't a market for it, so the time and resources spent on that sort of project could be better spent putting out my company's version of Sports Game {$year}.

      In short, you don't need to love EA or Ubisoft for this, but maybe we could not be a bunch of self-absorbed, greedy little cranks.

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    12. Re:Boo ads by Canthros · · Score: 1

      Ha-ha! Witty!

      No, I read between the lines a little bit because this is Slashdot, and the only thing more safely assumed than the copyright = theft opinion of many of the hoi polloi would be their generally poor communication skills. And, actually, that's not what I assumed you were arguing, and said as much. I even thought I was pretty plain about this.

      The reason I bring up the copyright limits of 200 years ago is that the 15-years with one extension arrangement popped up not all that long ago as being generally optimal for 'fostering creativity'. In addition to being far, far shorter than modern copyright laws, that limit is still sufficiently long that it would keep all four titles out of the public domain. If you're all about copyright as a long-term means of enriching the larger society, then that seems a relevant point, though I admit made it poorly.

      Also, your grasp of hyperbole and irony are excellent. Do keep up the good work!

      I suppose I am unnecessarily insulting, but this hardly the first of these copyright arguments I've seen around here, and they all seem to go in roughly the same direction. I'm pretty sure I understand you just fine. It's you who seems to be having difficulty understanding me, and I'll freely grant that may be my fault.

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  9. An excellent policy by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can actually get behind this policy. While I have a problem with advertisements in games for which I've paid full price, I have absolutely no problem putting up with reasonably placed McDonald's interstitial ads or menu banners if I know it's allowing me to play the game for free. An ad-supported, digitally-distributed model for older games is a recipe for success in my book and I'd support the model enthusiastically. I don't want to see it become the primary model for games, as I'm quite happy to shell out full price for a quality game with no advertisements at all. However, if someone were to make Freespace 2 (or hell, even the old Wing Commander games) available with this model, I'd sign up immediately.

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    1. Re:An excellent policy by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 1

      Check out fsoinstaller.com for FreeSpace 2.

      I just downloaded everything last Saturday and I've been having a blast with it. Nice! Many thanks for that link.
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    2. Re:An excellent policy by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      I tried Prince of Persia: Sands of Time a few days ago and just couldn't stomach the ads. The banners in the menus are tolerable but there's an animated McDonalds ad - ONE ad - that plays over and over. It's just obnoxious. I gave up after about 2 levels. If this is what I can expect in the future then I'd sooner replay a game I own than play a new ad-supported game.

    3. Re:An excellent policy by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 1

      I tried Prince of Persia: Sands of Time a few days ago and just couldn't stomach the ads. The banners in the menus are tolerable but there's an animated McDonalds ad - ONE ad - that plays over and over. It's just obnoxious. I gave up after about 2 levels. If this is what I can expect in the future then I'd sooner replay a game I own than play a new ad-supported game. That's fair enough. I tried the Far Cry offering and had a similarly visceral reaction to the interstitial McDonalds ad when I first saw it. However, I've been meaning to play Far Cry for a long time now and this is an interesting opportunity to do so. Whether my desire to play the game to completion will outweigh my irritation at jarring interstitial advertisements remains to be seen. Nevertheless, if companies such as Ubi and their ilk are able to find a reasonable balance of intrusiveness versus value, I'd support the model as a way to play older games that are no longer easy to find. Like you, though, I have a low tolerance for advertising (I can't stand network television, for example) and definitely prefer to pay full price for an uninterrupted new game experience.

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    4. Re:An excellent policy by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      I agree 100% that this is an exciting move in the right direction, and a risky venture by Ubisoft. I have huge respect for them for trying this. Like all advertisers I suspect advertisers will experiment, trying to find the most annoying thing they can get away with without scaring off the customer. I hope this venture works in the long run, but not as-is. For instance, I'd rather watch 60 seconds of commercials before the game starts then be forced to think about hamburgers while I'm trying to save a princess.

  10. Bandwidth costs? Doubtful. by JonTurner · · Score: 1, Interesting

    >>(I understand the ads for now, due to bandwidth costs).
    If that were the issue, a simple bittorrent seed would be a solution.

    It's about creating a revenue stream from an otherwise worthless intellectual property.

  11. It's a game-flavored ad by Fry-kun · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've downloaded Rayman Raving Rabids to check it out. There's just one ad - a pretty bad macdonalds one.
    You get the ad:
    1. When the game starts,
    2. Before every level,
    3. After every level

    This means if you play 3x 30-second levels you get 6x 30-second ad.
    I guess they looked at how the TV ads have been progressing in few past few years, added a quick spell of reductio ad absurdum and crapped out the result.

    Funny part is, I might've actually kept the game if there were some variety to ads and/or they showed up in longer intervals - at least 5 minutes or so..

    P.S. for some reason they make you link the game to your ubi.com account...

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    1. Re:It's a game-flavored ad by ASkGNet · · Score: 4, Informative

      The ads are laughable. All of the advertising is done by DFHEngine.dll, which hooks D3D9 renderer to do its bidding.
      The main game executable has a call at the very beginning to DFHInitialize. Removing that removes all the ads.

      Enjoy.

    2. Re:It's a game-flavored ad by El+Gigante+de+Justic · · Score: 1

      Well the $$ version of Rayman Raving Rabids has annoying animations you have to watch before and after every level, whether you complete it successfully or not (I'm guessing those are in this version as well); the ads can't be much more annoying than those.

    3. Re:It's a game-flavored ad by Fry-kun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The ads are laughable. All of the advertising is done by DFHEngine.dll, which hooks D3D9 renderer to do its bidding.
      The main game executable has a call at the very beginning to DFHInitialize. Removing that removes all the ads.

      Enjoy. Be that as it may, it negates the whole point of ad-supported games. If I were going to do what you suggest, I might as well just get a warez copy of the game in the first place. Not only would I not have to register and perform any extra steps post-install, I'd also get to use a torrent with great download speed (as opposed to waiting for an hour or two in the "download queue").

      I'm not against ad-supported games - in fact I think it's a great idea, especially for low-income gamers. I have a problem with this particular execution, though.
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    4. Re:It's a game-flavored ad by Fry-kun · · Score: 1

      You only say that because you've never seen... nay, *heard* the ad in question.
      To paraphrase a quote from some sitcom: this ad makes me want to put a finger through my eye into my brain and swirl it around.

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    5. Re:It's a game-flavored ad by Snaller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?"

      I know it isn't.

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  12. Re:First... by Novus · · Score: 1

    C&C Gold runs on XP; the instructions for patching it to run on XP are included on the download page. Apparently, the IPX networking code on the CDs doesn't work on XP, so they provide a patch that removes the offending code entirely. The other net play options (including TCP/IP) seem to be unaffected, although I haven't verified this myself (don't have XP on this machine, so I can't test this right now).

    You may also experience problems with the default screen resolution of 640x400 (graphics driver lock-ups on start in my case); use the supplied configuration program to change it to a more compatible 640x480 (and fiddle with vertical size on your monitor to fix the aspect ratio if you need to).

  13. EA? by jfodale · · Score: 1

    This was extremely cool of EA. It was a labor day weekend full of nostalgia.

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  14. Any of them work with WINE? by GnuPooh · · Score: 1

    The app datbase at winehq says that this version of Far Cry does not work. I'm not sure about the others. Anyone else test them? The retail version of these game do work in Wine, but I'm not sure about getting this modified version to run.

    1. Re:Any of them work with WINE? by Rebelgecko · · Score: 1

      Far Cry (ad-supported or retail) works fine in Cedega or Cider.

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    2. Re:Any of them work with WINE? by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      There's no multiplayer in this version of Far Cry either. These aren't the original boxed versions with ads tacked on - they're less functional and less compatible, intended for American Windows users only.

  15. Freespace 2 *is* freeware by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

    Huh? I remember hearing a while ago that Freespace 2 was released as freeware. A quick glance at its Wikipedia entry also shows that its source code was made available. In fact, a Google search will list a number of freeware web sites that have links to the game.

    In short, you've been missing out all this time. :)

    But don't expect the Wing Commander series to be released as freeware any time soon. It's own by EA now. :(

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    1. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      But don't expect the Wing Commander series to be released as freeware any time soon. It's own by EA now. :(

      I got me a free copy from a disc that came with PC Gamer. I still have the original, of course, but it was nice to get a Windows-compatible version on CD without paying for the Kilrathi Saga pack.
    2. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 1

      Huh? I remember hearing a while ago that Freespace 2 was released as freeware. Thanks for the info! Unfortunately I was unable to find a single working link to a copy of FS2. It appears that I missed the window on getting a free copy of the game. In some ways, though, this illustrates my point. Instead of hunting around old freeware sites for .iso files or source code on the off-chance of finding an old classic, I'd be perfectly happy to get my classic gaming fix via an ad-supported service that delivers the content in a non-flaky fashion. I'm afraid the days when I could spend hours trying to hack config files to get something to run are rapidly disappearing into the past. Now, with my time at a premium, I'm horrified to find myself in that group of end-users who need something to run without too much time investment on my part.

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    3. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

      Try this or this.

      This game was definitely released as freeware . In fact, not only is it freeware, the source code was also released. It can be distributed as you wish as long and it's not for commercial purposes. It has been ported to Mac and Linux as well

      There might have been a time where they had a window to make it officially available, but I'm sure that there are plenty of ways to get it. Just be aware that it looks like the games and cutscenes have to be downloaded separately. Because is it a story-driven game, the cutscenes can make a difference. I recommend getting them. This is one time where you can download via BitTorrent and not worry about some Big Brother "Let's-Sue-Everyone" company coming after you. :)

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    4. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 1

      There might have been a time where they had a window to make it officially available, but I'm sure that there are plenty of ways to get it. Just be aware that it looks like the games and cutscenes have to be downloaded separately. Because is it a story-driven game, the cutscenes can make a difference. I recommend getting them. This is one time where you can download via BitTorrent and not worry about some Big Brother "Let's-Sue-Everyone" company coming after you. :) Yep, the game is definitely freeware and you have my thanks for letting me know that. Freespace 2 is one of those games (much like System Shock 2) that I've periodically had a strong desire to revisit, and I delighted to have the opportunity to play it again. It looks as though the upcoming Tarr Chronicles may give us a more up-to-date space-combat game. Hopefully they can pull it off. Thanks again for helping me out!
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    5. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      Technically, Freespace 2 wasn't freeware. It's EULA just allowed you to freely copy it to friends.

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    6. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      But don't expect the Wing Commander series to be released as freeware any time soon. It's own by EA now. :(

      check this out

  16. Re:First... by plague3106 · · Score: 1

    I would think this version is one that does; I bought the 10 year aniversary pack which included everything from C&C to Generals (+ all exansions at the time) and they did update to work on XP.

    Some years before though I bought something similar, but it was not updated.. needless to say I was not happy.

  17. Games with subscriptions should be free. by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    What I hate is games like EverQuest that want you to buy the game and then pay a subscription fee. I mean come on make it one or the other. Either I pay for the game and have a free subscription or I get the game for free and pay a subscription fee. Making it both just seems greedy.

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    1. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Informative

      The game has a heavy development cost, actually moreso than a standard game. When you buy the retail box, you are paying the developers for the initial cost of devlopment. The servers and bandwidth also cost money, and developers are expected to constantly squash bugs, and release new content to keep you playing, thus the subscription price.

      If you don't like it, check out something like Guild Wars (more of a slimmed down title, but cheaper) or Planeshift, which is free last time I checked.

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    2. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Funny

      I just stopped playing those games anyway. None of them was really any fun and I got sick of seeing real life friends refusing to go do real life things because they had to camp and wait (for hours!) for the magic penis stretcher to reappear so they could continue on their quest.

      Still, I think they should just roll the development costs into what is covered by subscriptions. I'd be more likely to try more of the games if I could do it without having to buy anything.

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    3. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by sammy+baby · · Score: 1

      None of them was really any fun and I got sick of seeing real life friends refusing to go do real life things because they had to camp and wait (for hours!) for the magic penis stretcher to reappear so they could continue on their quest.


      Even sadder was seeing everyone go crazy trying to get an epic mount. That's how they compensate when they couldn't get the magic penis stretcher.
    4. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      Except that's not true. You can cover your initial development expenses with the monthly fee. Considering the cost of bandwidth in bulk, there's an enormous profit margin on MMO monthly fees. They don't use much bandwidth anyhow. Most of the rest can go to overhead (which should be relatively low) and development.

      Take WoW for example. Now, I hate most MMOs in general, but their pricing scheme really rips off the consumer. Not only do you have to pay for the box (and I should point out that initial R&D was paid off LONG ago), but you end up paying something like $15/mth in subscription fees too. On top of this, you also need to buy the expansion packs, despite the fact that between the first game coming out and the expansion, people have probably spent hundreds of dollars on subscriptions!

      The game has what, 8 million subscribers paying $15 million a month? 1.4 billion dollars per year, are you telling me that doesn't cover initial development, bandwidth, overhead, etc?

      It's a flawed pricing model as far as the consumer is concerned, no way a company making 1.4 billion dollars per year needs to charge for "expansions" to products their customers are already paying for monthly.

    5. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      Except it is. Richard Garriot basically invented the MMO genre with Ultima Online, and has never been much of a company man. He ripped on EA, and has no reason to really lie about the industry. He's spoken on MMO's quite a bit over the years, and works for NCSoft. He helped oversee the launch of Guild Wars, City of Heroes, Auto Assault, etc. and has his new MMO title called Tabula Rasa, which has been in development for years, and years.

      When you write an MMO, you're coding both a client, and a server. You're usually talking 3 full years of active development, where as many software titles get closer to a year. Big titles that get three years of development (like GTA or Oblivion) often have a budget of around 85 million dollars for production. Even if you are a runaway success like WoW (which most titles aren't) and let's say you hit 1 million subscribers, each paying $15 (or whatever the current going rate is) per month. Out of that 15, there is credit card processing, retail fees, or whatver. Then you pay for the physical cost of the servers, and again the investment is in the millions, and WoW had to keep adding and adding more servers. And then you pay the cost of the bandwidth. Let's say you are lucky enough to make a full $10 profit out of the $15 (unlikely) you're talking 9 months of subscriptions at the absolute best case scenario to cover the cost of development, or you charge for the retail box.

      Most MMOs are lucky to get 100,000 or 200,000 subscribers, so they can't just magically wait several years to HOPEFULLY recoup the cost of initial development.

      Yet, new content, patches, and upgrades are released for free constantly. You have to pay developers to make those. You have to pay for GMs, and tech support, and pay for a community for an MMO. Let's say the retail box pays for the cost of initial development, and the game goes on for years, so how do you pay for the ongoing costs?

      If you're unhappy, then follow the advice I already gave you, and look into cheaper or free products. It is a free market, and the dollar will decide. I hate hearing people bitch about how they should be given everything for free. If you don't like paying for stuff, then look into free products and services, because they are out there. But if you want to play WoW for free, you're barking up the wrong tree. You seem to believe they are this magical cash show, and WoW is the best example of success, but perhaps you forget the DOZENS of MMO companies than folded and went bankrupt before their product ever launched, or shortly there after. Development of a major title is not cheap, and they can't give it away for free. It just isn't a viable business model for most. Guild Wars is about as close to an exception as you'll find. You don't have to subscribe, but they make it worth you while if you want to. However, you still have to buy a retail box, and you'll discover that Guild Wars isn't nearly as deep as other games.

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    6. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      UO has been going for a decade and still rolling. $15 a month over 10 years = $1,800. So they should have just shipped the retail box for $1,850?

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    7. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Love the moralistic rant.

      Love how Blizzard has this big "First month free!" plastered over the WoW box, but when I got home and was ready to play, it turned out I had to drive back to the store to get one of their 30 dollar time-cards before I could play my new game, only to find that I'm asked to level grind for days and days on end, with the justification that "People would win the game(they're continuing to pay for) too quickly if it was paced properly!".

      Love how I only continue giving money to companies who earn it, rather than weasels who try to first lie into my pocketbook, then cheat me out of an enjoyable game experience to stay there.

      Poor game developers. I feel for them. I really do. Oops, I just spent all my money on games by companies that want to make fun games(I'm looking at you, Nintendo!). I'm off!

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    8. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by adinu79 · · Score: 1

      You had to do what? You just got ripped off by the retailer selling you the Trial Version CDs as the retail box. The RETAIL WoW comes with 30 days free, no questions asked. It's either that or you're blind and couldn't find the CD-Key flyer inside the box.

    9. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Snaller · · Score: 1

      yack yack. They are making a fortune, don't make excuses.

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    10. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      They're making a fortune? Most every MMO company went bankrupt.

      Just because one game is a huge success doesn't mean the entire industry can afford to give their product away. WoW is a rare success, and I doubt even their business model would support giving away the subscription for free.

      Stop whining and pay for your products.

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    11. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Snaller · · Score: 1

      "Stop whining and pay for your products."

      Stop making up shit for people who are trying to make money.

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    12. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      God forbid a company turn a profit. Clearly any game company who sells their game is evil. How dare they charge money for something that cost them tens of millions of dollars! Oh, the humanity of it all!

      Please explain to me what I made up or lied about. I will then in turn bury you in a pile of evidence and facts and expose you for the troll you are.

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    13. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, 30 days free....but you can't play until you give up a credit card number or enter a code for a time card. You enter in your activation key for your new account, then they go "Great! Now how will you be paying? You can't play until you give us a credit card number or a time card number."

      So.... 30 days free, one question asked, but it's a doozie.

      Really, you've got some nerve, accusing me of being functionally illiterate.

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    14. Re:Games with subscriptions should be free. by Snaller · · Score: 1

      "God forbid a company turn a profit. Clearly any game company who sells their game is evil. How dare they charge money for something that cost them tens of millions of dollars!"

      Well you are free to think that.

      "Please explain to me what I made up or lied about."

      You made it sound like they were mother thereas for spending millions of dollars hoping to make billions of dollars.

      "I will then in turn bury you in a pile of evidence and facts and expose you for the troll you are."

      And with a tone like that, don't bother.

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  18. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware -- whoops by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

    I didn't catch that C&C is also released by EA. *blush* Still, I don't see EA releasing any Origin titles as freeware any time soon. I'd love to see a revamped version of all of them to use today's technology. In fact, a great marketing tool would be to release the originals as freeware (do they run under DosBox?) while they re-tool the series to work under modern technology as a commercial project.

    Same thing with the old LucasArts games. Sam and Max are now under Tell Tale Games, so why does Lucas hold onto the original? Release it to freeware, for crying out loud! Wishful thinking, I suppose.

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  19. BitTorrent by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    Does anyone have a link to download the Ubi games by BT? I'd rather not wait for their stupid download queues etc.

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  20. Torrents by the+Plums+in+us · · Score: 1

    Most are available from http://www.gameupdates.org/ in torrent form, no less.

    I haven't played any yet, but I heard mention of something about needing to register as being from the United States, as well as possibly setting your time zone to a U.S. one.

    1. Re:Torrents by ebingo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you're ubi.com account has to be a US one, but that's not a big deal because you can change the country of an already existing account anytime.

    2. Re:Torrents by ebingo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      damn me and that submit button...

  21. Re:Rockstar by heinousjay · · Score: 1

    Jeezus pleezus but you pigs are ungrateful. Just don't download it then.

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  22. BOOOO! ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously, what do you want for nothing? Everything

    Seriously, no person (or company) has the right to take combinations of light and sound and claim it as their own, let alone put people in a cage for looking at said light and sound.

    Long ago the church tried to shut down (or just plain kill) people who published independent books,as the church claimed they had the sole right (no pun intended) to control information. Now in present times - the current rulers by force (no longer officially the church) are claiming a similar right. Long ago some were smart enough to stand up for their rights and fortunately some still are.
    1. Re:BOOOO! ads by zegota · · Score: 1

      Are you seriously suggesting that these companies should just spend millions of dollars and years developing A-quality games so you can play them for free as soon as they come out? Why in the world would anyone do this?

    2. Re:BOOOO! ads by mikkelm · · Score: 1

      What product are you specifically referring to here? This is an entire market, not a single product.

      It takes years and millions of dollars to make top quality games. That's a well-established fact. Of course games wouldn't stop being produced. There are lots of games produced today that are completely free to use, with completely open code, which would continue to be produced. The thing is, these games are rarely all that good, and certainly don't often have mass appeal, so yes, the quality would most certainly drop.

      Why? Because money gets things done. Snap back into the real world.

    3. Re:BOOOO! ads by Canthros · · Score: 1

      Seriously, no person (or company) has the right to take combinations of light and sound and claim it as their own, let alone put people in a cage for looking at said light and sound.
      Seriously, no person has the right to take combinations of letters and punctuations and claim it as their own, etc.

      I'm especially bemused by the vague organized-religion-bit-me-when-I-was-a-poor-uneduc ated-pre-Enlightenment-peasant rubbish. Your argument is balderdash, groundless and ridiculous.
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  23. Re:Rockstar by mazarin5 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why couldn't they have followed Rockstar's lead and just released the damn game without any strings? It sure as hell would have simplified localization!
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  24. hmm... by XmasterX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "you must live in the U.S. to play the game"
    why the european people never get the good things? :\
    1. Re:hmm... by turrican · · Score: 1

      Sorry, we're just grumpy because Europe gets all of the cool cell phones...

    2. Re:hmm... by DeepHurtn! · · Score: 1

      Why that's not true, you get to not live in America!

  25. Re:All that is nice, but... by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does anything?

    (Yeah, flag me as a troll... I don't care. It was a joke, and I am an Ubuntu user. Now the question is, will anyone with mod points actually READ this far. If so, please mod it as interesting. Consider it a social experiment to see if anyone reads beyond the opening comment without bothering to see the context.)

  26. Re:Freespace 2 *is* freeware -- whoops by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 1

    Still, I don't see EA releasing any Origin titles as freeware any time soon.

    Except for the crown jewels, Ultima IV, which was released as freeware about ten years ago by Origin under EA stewardship (if you can call it that).
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  27. Re:All that is nice, but... by Nephilium · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't you know that in order to be modded up for something like this you have to start the comment with:

    I know I'll get modded down for this, but...

    Nephilium

  28. Yeah, but which AAA games? by RoverDaddy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did they release any of my favorites, like TripTik Hunter IV, Roadside Assist - The Awakening, or Extreme Traveler's Check Speed Signing?

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    1. Re:Yeah, but which AAA games? by Alsee · · Score: 1

      I was hoping for Desert Bus.

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  29. Retail boxes are more about getting in channel by patio11 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Blizzard would HAPPILY give out a copy of World of Warcraft free to anyone who asks, if it were a good economic decision for them. Its not (or rather, was not at launch and will not be at the launch of each expansion pack for a few years yet). In the US, good high speed bandwidth is rare, and WoW is huge. The most efficient form of distributing untold terabytes of textures across the Internets is to not use the Internet at all, but rather to burn it on CDs, put the CDs in warehouses, and move from warehouses to retail outlets where your customers shop. (Also note that customers and users of MMORPGs are not necessarily the same people. Remember, although its changing slowly, a huge percentage of the video game market is gifts from Mom to child, and Mom may not get the same experience out of giving an emailed "CD" key rather than something wrappable.)

    The problem? Retail outlets don't stock CDs just to make you happy -- you have to have a proposition for them to make money from the deal. The solution is to charge for a box what every other A list title costs, and give them an exclusivity deal -- that is why no A list MMORPGs offer online distribution for several months after release despite it being a technological no-brainer (after all, they do onlnie distribution for the beta, which in late stage is 100% the same product as the retail release). If you don't give them exclusivity, or if you drop the price on your CD to where it is nominal, they drop your MMORPG and use the shelf space for Sims: Fighting Aliens in the 'Hood or whatever that cash cow is on these days. (Which would you rather have, as a retailer? 50% of a $49.95 sale of GTA42: Vatican City or a $1 per CD bounty for giving out the AOL-esque "Free WoW trial!" CDs?)

    1. Re:Retail boxes are more about getting in channel by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      All I know is that I just pre-ordered GTA42: Vatican City. Now that game has to be hard-core!

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  30. AAA = Triple-A? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    AAA = Triple-A?

    http://triplea.sourceforge.net/mywiki

    Anyway, that's what I thought when I saw the headline...

  31. Another Ad-Supported Ubisoft Game by tyen · · Score: 1

    There is another ad-supported Ubisoft game called Shadowbane. It is an old MMORPG, but apart from an ad that displays every time you start up the game, is otherwise completely free to play (installer is free, and the online subscription is free). The installer for this one however, can also be downloaded from BitTorrent. Very interesting way to find revenue for games that have become unfashionable, but are still viable in a Long Tail kind of way.

  32. Getting C&C 95 is like... by JimboFBX · · Score: 2, Informative

    getting a gift pufferfish to eat from China. Dont accidentally install Direct X 3.0 , or adobe, or... Also it doesn't appear to work with XP Service Pack 2. I had to crank out my old laptop to play it. On my newer computer, it kept freezing anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes into the game even after fiddling with all the settings and compatability.

  33. Testing ads? by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

    Well, to me it looks as if these chaps are testing advertisements in games (yes, I know some games already have these) to see how people respond, and how much they don't mind.
    A good idea placing them in free games (meaning, you can't expect to sell any more of them, so you might as well give them away and get a good name for this) as an experiment.

    However... I personally find advertisements disgusting. They're the primary reason I don't own a TV (that, and the rather moronic content). Same reason I don't listen to the radio. Hardly go to movie theaters (sometimes, on a particularly good film, I go if I can find out when the actual movie starts).
    Thus I, personally, have no interest in these games.

    Meaning, if this turns out to be successful, I'm worried that we might see more ads in the games we buy. Which would mean that I buy less games than I do now...

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  34. Re:All that is nice, but... by MLease · · Score: 1

    Guess the reverse psychology ploy suggested by the parent didn't work. Nice try, though; it was the first time I found this troll amusing. :)

    -Mike

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  35. Requires installing an ActiveX control? by argent · · Score: 1

    I tried downloading the file and got a message that it couldn't install a download control.

    Well, yeh, I don't use Internet Explorer for browsing the web precisely because I don't want sites installing ActiveX controls on me.

    No, I'm not going to fire up IE for Fileplanet, even if I do trust them to download a program from them and install it, unl;ess they can vouch for all of their advertisers and anyone else who can inject HTML into their pages. Not just for the sake of running a bleeding game.

    1. Re:Requires installing an ActiveX control? by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1

      I saw that too, except I just clicked on the "continue to public download server" or whatever the link was called. Downloads are going as I type this...

    2. Re:Requires installing an ActiveX control? by argent · · Score: 1

      I got a 403 from that link.

  36. Link the link, not the bloody blog by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I hate it when people do that, I wish there were editors to catch it.... sigh.

    The link to the C&C page that actually gives you the files (C&C GDI, C&C Nod, and XP install instructions) http://www.commandandconquer.com/intel/default.asp x?id=61#NewsMain

    Rayman Raving Rabbids 11 meg
    http://www.fileplanet.com/180428/180000/fileinfo/R ayman-Raving-Rabbids-%5BFree-Game---Ad-Supported%5 D

    Prince of Persia Sands of Time: 1200 megs http://www.fileplanet.com/180411/180000/fileinfo/P rince-of-Persia:-Sands-of-Time-Full-Game-%5BFree-G ame---Ad-Supported%5D

    Far Cry: 2.7 gigs (!)
    http://www.fileplanet.com/180410/180000/fileinfo/F ar-Cry-Full-Game-%5BFree-Game---Ad-Supported%5D

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    1. Re:Link the link, not the bloody blog by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Note, as of 4 pm CST 9/5/07, Ubi has PULLED their files for some reason.
      I wonder if ANYONE got 4 gigs of free games in the short time they were posted...

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  37. Re:Rockstar by WNight · · Score: 1

    They released an old game ($5 "value"?) full of ads. That's cool I guess. But then they act like they cured AIDS and gave away the cure. Feh.

    If "eyeballs" have value, how can something be free when you intend to force me to view ads to use it?

  38. Re:Annoying!!! by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

    You can get the Ubisoft games from Gamer's Hell or FileShack too.

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  39. Re:All that is nice, but... by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

    Loved that when I first saw it. Very clever.

    And my experiment proved a success. Well, someone modded it insightful anyway. What does this prove? Well it's quite detailed, but it proves*^^((%*%^... NO CARRIER

  40. Ubi games - Not free anymore! by 7grain · · Score: 1

    I downloaded Far Cry (2.6GB) from Fileplanet when this story first appeared on Slashdot. Didn't have time to install or play, so I let it sit. Finally went to install and play last night (9/7/07).

    When I went to install, I was informed that I had to provide ubi.com logon credentials. Fine, that seems fair. So I registered a new account at ubi.com, provided the credentials and it *still* wouldn't allow me to install the game. Said I had to live in the US to enjoy the offer. Um... well I do live in the US. I figured maybe my account needed to steep a bit before I could sign up. *shrug*

    Found this letter from Ubi.com in my inbox this morning:

    "Thank you for downloading one of the promotional PC titles made available for ad-supported freeplay over the Labor Day weekend. The promotion is now closed and it is no longer possible to play the games for free.

    If you are interested in further information on these titles, please visit our official website at www.ubi.com"

    Nice! I guess "free, ad-supported" only means "free, ad-supported for three days!"

    What a shame. I love the idea of playing older games in an ad-supported format. I really love it when classic games are given back to the fans at the end of their lifecycle. Example: Arena (TES 1) from Bethesda Softworks, Zork Trilogy from Infocom (now Activision), and now C&C from Westwood. I paid $40 or more for each of those games when they were first released (I'm 38 now), now they're long gone from my collection but it is a great feelgood to play them again. There is a huge positive karma effect for these companies to give it up this way.

    Oh well, at least C&C is still working. :-)