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Comcast Forging Packets To Filter Torrents

An anonymous reader writes "It's been widely reported by now that Comcast is throttling BitTorrent traffic. What has escaped attention is the fact that Comcast, like the Great Firewall of China uses forged TCP Reset (RST) packets to do the job. While the Chinese government can do what they want, it turns out that Comcast may actually be violating criminal impersonation statutes in states around the country. Simply put, while it's legal to block traffic on your network, forging data to and from customers is a big no-no."

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  1. Evidence is already out there by poetmatt · · Score: 5, Informative

    take a look at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/comcast and you will note that plenty of examples of this impersonation exist. They disconnect by impersonation after about 10 seconds of seeding, and it seems to be courtesy of Sandvine. Gotta love lack of net neutrality here, although I am not in favor of extreme net neutrality, some would be, well, nice.

  2. Actaul chat session dialog. by moseman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Christopher(Tue Sep 04 2007 17:54:47 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>

    Please provide me with a complete list of TCP/IP ports which Comcast actively blocks/filters/or limits traffic to users??

    analyst Tallilee.7304 has entered room

    Tallilee.7304(Tue Sep 04 2007 17:54:50 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>

    Hello Christopher_, Thank you for contacting Comcast Live Chat Support. My name is Tallilee.7304. Please give me one moment to review your information.

    Christopher_(Tue Sep 04 2007 17:55:23 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>

    Hi

    Tallilee.7304(Tue Sep 04 2007 17:55:18 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>

    The only ports that may be actively blocked on the Comcast network are 67, 68, 135, 137, 138, 139, 445, 512, 520, and 1080 at this time. Any ports that are blocked will not be unblocked. If the port you would like to use is on this list, please select another port to use with your software. There are over 10,000 ports available for use. Please be advised that Comcast reserves the entitlement to block any ports on the network without prior notice. We thank you for understanding this security policy.

    Christopher_(Tue Sep 04 2007 17:56:14 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>

    I have read that Comcast is now actively retarding bittorrent traffic.

    Tallilee.7304(Tue Sep 04 2007 17:56:09 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>

    That is not a true statement.

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  3. Re:Can you say "class action" ? by HiThere · · Score: 5, Informative

    If the ISPs filter based on torrent source, then they cease to be common carriers, and lose common carrier protection. Then they immediately become liable for every case of copyright infringement that they are accessory to.

    I don't think they'd like that choice.

    If they are common carriers, then they are supposed to be indifferent to WHAT they are carrying, like the mail or the phones. If an extortion threat is transmitted by mail, you can't sue the post office. Not just because it's acting as an agent of the govt, but because it's a common carrier. (UPS is just as protected.) They aren't supposed to know or care what they're carrying. If they did, and demonstrated the capability of filtering it by filtering some of it, then they would lose their common carrier status, and become liable as accessories to extortion, e.g.

    OTOH, I don't want them pretending to be me. Not at all. That should be grounds for a suit. It should also be grounds for criminal prosecution not only of those who implemented it, but of all of their supervisors, managers, etc. also. Including the boards of directors. It shouldn't have a particular onerous penalty...say 10 days for each separate offense. Cumulative. I'll be generous, and say 1 day per instance. I.e., 1 day per false packet.

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.