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Opera 9.5 Beats Firefox and IE7 As Fastest Browser

Abhinav Peddada writes "Ars Technica takes Opera 9.5, the latest from Opera's stable, for a test run and finds some interesting results, including it being a 'solid improvement to an already very strong browser.' On the performance front, Ars Technica reports 'Opera 9.5 scored slightly higher (281ms) than the previous released version, 9.23 (546ms). And Opera 9.x, let it be known, smacks silly the likes of Firefox and Internet Explorer, which tend to have results in the 900-1500ms range on this test machine (a 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo with 2GB RAM). Opera was 50 percent faster on average than Firefox, and 100 percent faster than IE7 on Windows Vista, for instance.'"

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  1. Article is very misleading - JS benchmark only by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article links to a Javascript benchmark only. There are many many more variables involved in determining how fast a given browser is, although certainly Javascript plays it's part. Variables like how soon does the browser start processing incoming, but yet incomplete data, etc. influence the browser's snappiness a lot aswell.

    Basically, the speed of the browser depends upon the speed of the html parsing engine, available bandwidth, browser settings, speed of the cache and Javascript, just to mention the main variables.

    Still, I'm interested how comes Opera's Javascript is so fast compared to the other browsers.

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  2. Opera faster _with JavaScript_ by IBBoard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Okay, so Opera is probably a bit faster than Firefox in page rendering as well if they're faster at JavaScript, but the actual quote (emphasis mine) is:

    When running various JavaScript speed tests, Opera 9.5 scored slightly higher (281ms) than the previous released version, 9.23 (546ms)

    So Opera is much faster than FF when running JavaScript tests, according to Ars Technica.

    Numbers are meaningless without context ;)
  3. Resource-conservation, not speed by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right now, the biggest issues with both IE and Firefox is a huge memory footprint. If Opera wants to bring something valuable to the table, make sure it can run smoothly on XP with 256 megs of memory. That would be valuable for a lot of people with aging hardware.

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  4. The sad part of the whole browsing experience by luvirini · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is that overall time to get and display an average page has gone up for me atleast in the last 10 years.

    This despite the fact that the computer speeds have increased and the connection speeds even more.

    The bigest fault lies ofcourse with maers of those silly pages with 100 different elements that have to be loaded and displayed separately, but also both IE and Firefox have become more and more bloated with functionality making them slower and bigger memory hogs.

  5. So how about the browser that really matters? by atlep · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe they left out Konqueror!

  6. I'm fed up with the anti-Opera crap here... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Opera is faster than Firefox across the board. Always has been, and probably always will be. Put that into context whatever way you want. So what's the point of your emphasis again?

    At the same time, Opera is also smaller, lighter, more stable, more innovative, better integrated, and comes from a company that behaves ethically towards the rest of the software community (eg, it does not engage in patent warfare to pummel the competition).

    Yet because it's not open source (it's been "free as in beer" for quite some time now, but even that's news to some people here) it's practically awarded pariah status by many Firefox zealots who typically use nothing more than ignorance and FUD to put it down.

    Seriously, the amount of anti-Opera, pro-Firefox propaganda (for want of a better word) here on Slashdot is ridiculous. Opera is, and always has been, a top-notch product.

    In the eyes of this humble observer, it's a far better browser than any other, but regardless of our personal preferences, isn't it time that people gave it due respect? Or is good software engineering only to be appreciated if it comes from the open source community?

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    1. Re:I'm fed up with the anti-Opera crap here... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If security is what concerns you then, unless I'm very much mistaken, Firefox has had more vulnerabilities than Opera.

      The whole "rigorously security audited" argument is a fallacy, unless you truly believe that Opera is somehow doing something that it shouldn't be doing. And that fallacy is blown out of the water when you realise that there isn't a single demonstrable example of Opera doing something as unethical as "phoning home" with your browsing habits, etc.

      Look around. The minute that something like that happens, whether it's Microsoft, Real, Sony or whoever, it's exposed almost immediately. Why, then, do people maintain this "ooh, they could be doing something naughty" line about Opera, when the company has gone out of its way to be a positive member of the software community? It's FUD, pure and simple.

      Look elsewhere on this story. You have people claiming that it's not "free as in beer". That's ignorance. You have people claiming it's not as fast as Firefox. That's ignorance again. You have people claiming that it might
      be useful if only it would perform well on machines that are only equipped with 256MB. That's... well, do you want to guess what that is? Go on, guess. You have people bleating "big deal, speed doesn't matter". Yet these are the same people who bleat about how Firefox is better than MSIE because it's faster and less bloated.

      It's all FUD and ignorance, FUD and ignorace. What happened to fair judgement and common sense?

      Opera is a great product from a great company. Pure and simple.

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    2. Re:I'm fed up with the anti-Opera crap here... by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would also like to say 2 words. "Web Developer". That's all. As a web developer, the web developer plugin makes web development so much easier. If there's a rendering bug, or something else on Firefox, then I don't worry about it too much, because I know it will be easy to fix. Change a cookie value, see hidden form values, edit HTML and CSS and see the results instantly, without reloading the page. I know that there's "web developer" plugins for IE and such, but I have yet to see one with the functionality and ease of use of the firefox one. And that is the reason I'll continue to use Firefox as my main browser, until something beats them on this front.

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    3. Re:I'm fed up with the anti-Opera crap here... by scot4875 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used Firefox for about 4 years, and installed Opera this summer to do some testing on it.

      Since then, I've used Opera for browsing and Firefox for web development. There's just no comparison between the two. And now that one of the other responses to this post has pointed me at this, I may not use Firefox for anything other than testing in Firefox.

      Of course, I'm one of those sufferers of the Firefox bug that causes it to use ridiculous amounts of memory. I've got a Firefox window open with Gmail (alas, Gmail breaks in Opera for me when composing mail), and it's consuming 180MB. I've got 2 opera windows open with about 15 tabs in one, including a few large Slashdot discussions, and it's consuming 120MB. So for me, there was no question when choosing between the two for everyday use.

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  7. Re:Who cares? by Bert64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd like a multi threaded browser, where something heavy in one tab doesnt drag the rest of the browser down to a crawl...

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  8. Re:Different market by Ilgaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I've seen the speed rankings in all tests always have Opera and Safari leading with IE and FF being behind.


    Opera aims at different market -- small gadgets. This is where the speed is really critical. For IE and FF good enough is enough, since performance on modern desktops is not that critical.

    From what I've seen the speed rankings in all tests always have Opera and Safari leading with IE and FF being behind.


    Opera aims at different market -- small gadgets. This is where the speed is really critical. For IE and FF good enough is enough, since performance on modern desktops is not that critical.

    As a Quad G5 (4x 2500) Mac owner with lots of RAM, I really don't want a browser choking up an entire CPU and flooding my memory. I didn't pay money to cover amateur programming mistakes by other people. As same guy, I flamed Opera guys about not fixing a bug happens on Slashdot beta, first thing I checked was that after getting that awesome 9.5 alpha and yes it is fixed.

    I have used a Xeon Video workstation lately and poor AVID was acting like it is on 80386 because a stupid "free" antivirus was taking whole CPU cycles trying to "scan" gigabyte level raw videos while it was asked to ignore them.

    It is common getting replies as "get more RAM" or "upgrade your CPU" from various browser fans but when I see a browser using 100% CPU , I get alerted about what kind of security issues it may have and why I should be wasting my CPU to it.

    Opera's power comes from managing to code and sell full feature browsers which would even run on Nokia 7650 with 2 MB of RAM. Don't let the Desktop versions memory usage fool you, it is mostly RAM Cache, not memory "flood". Instead of flooding memory, they use it for a good reason and release immediately when another app needs it.
  9. Re:Different market by SolitaryMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really wouldn't say that. Once you've used a browser that renders pages considerably faster than your old browser, there's no going back. It makes a *big* difference.

    Yes, it does makes difference, but on desktop feature set is much more important and there is no way I'm trading NoScript + CookieSafe + Firebug + Foxmarks + Slashdotter for a slight increase in speed.

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  10. Re:Wasn't that always the case? by kestasjk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're going to complain about something, please try and make it relevant. A relevant complaint, like having to wait longer for webpages to render?

    Maybe I just don't have spiderman senses or Clint Eastwood style reflexes that most web users have, but the wait of less than half a second for a webpage to render doesn't really bother me that much.

    I'm not saying this because I'm a Firefox fanboy, or because I don't like Opera, I just don't get why it matters. Even on MySpace it doesn't take so long to render a webpage that it bothers you, and if a webpage takes a long time to load it'll almost certainly be because of your network connection or the server and not rendering time.
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  11. Re:its all about the addons by aaaurgh · · Score: 3, Insightful

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  12. Re:Wasn't that always the case? by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You may or may not have noticed, but many websites, including this one, are using more and more javascript, which are what the speed tests were measuring (sue me, I RTFA'd). So it's not so much the initial load time, as it is how fast other things happen once the page has been displayed.