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Entry-Level Astronomy?

brobak writes "I'm getting ready to move into a new home on a couple of acres of rural property a significant distance from any large source of light pollution. I've always been interested in astronomy in general, and I would like to put my dark skies to use by picking up decent telescope and learning a bit about the skies over my head. The overall budget for this project is going to be around $1,000. I am particularly interested in astrophotography, but I understand that that may carry me outside the scope of the initial budget. I've already signed up for my local astronomy club's next monthly meeting. I have been doing Web research, but I thought that the Slashdot community would be the perfect place to get opinions on entry-level equipment, websites, and books."

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  1. A Great Camera? by SpottedKuh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now, I know that this probably won't be the kind of answer you're looking for, but here I go anyway...

    Personally, if I had the kind of space you had, with no light pollution, and if I had the budget you mentioned: I would buy a high quality digital SLR camera. Obviously, if you're looking to photograph things that you need a telescope to see, this wouldn't be a good use of money for you. But, if you're looking to take shots of constellations and the moon and such, then a high-quality digital SLR with a tripod will work beautifully.

    Plus, such a setup would allow you to take great photos of various weather phenomenon (e.g., thunderstorms). While it may not be the case for you, most of the people that I know that enjoy photographing the moon and the night sky also love photographing weather as well.

    And, obviously, you'd then have a great camera for travelling and such.

    1. Re:A Great Camera? by rs79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just another datapoint for the "film is dead" theme...

      I'm just a hacker when it comes to photography. I have a newish Canon DSLR which I think is awesome. But i have friends with serious serious camera collections and portfoios.

      They're all disassembling their darkrooms and have gone completely digital. Film is dead there, they use Epson printers with the Ultra Chrome inks. While the ink isn't cheap it is better and more durable than current photographic methods.

      They use 'spensoive things like the R2200 and up. Thy were blowing out the R800 here for $99 (Canadian, but they take US cash ar par these days around here so I guess cad/usd is a moot point) which isn't bad considering it comes with full ink which is $160.

      I got one and am utterly blown away with the print quality even up at 8x10. I've never had prints this good from a lab or even a friends darkroom.

      While hp and canon make nice stuff too it seems to be the Epson that everybody I know has gone for.

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  2. Why not binoculars first? by Starwanderer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, $1000 is a rather small budget where astrophotography is concerned. A good mount alone can cost many times that amount. Please don't skimp on the mount. I assure you, few things in life are more frustrating and miserable than attempting quality astrophotography on a cheap, inadequate mount.

    You can get a quality telescope for $1000, especially if you build your own. I grind my own mirrors because the mirror I make myself is quite a bit better than all but a very few of the ones commercially available. It's quite a bit of fun too.

    Your best course of action would be to hold off on getting a telescope for now. Get good astronomical binoculars ($200 - $400) and learn the sky. Once you've done that, you'll have a much better idea of exactly the aspects of astronomy that interest you and you'll have some additional time to decide upon the right equipment. You'll also have more time to save some additional money for qualityequipment.

    1. Re:Why not binoculars first? by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I grind my own mirrors because the mirror I make myself is quite a bit better than all but a very few of the ones commercially available. It's quite a bit of fun too.

      Can you provide information on how the amateur grinds mirrors? What kind of equipment do you need?

      Thanks.

    2. Re:Why not binoculars first? by Starwanderer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sure. It's not nearly as much equipment as one might think. The Stellafane ATM pages http://www.stellafane.com/atm/atm_main.htm are a good starting place to learn about how it's done. The best book I've found on the subject is How to Make a Telescope by Jean Texereau. Another fine set of books are Amateur Telescope Making - Volumes 1, 2, and 3 by Albert G. Ingalls (Editor).

  3. Best advice I got by BuR4N · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The best advice I got (now in retrospective) when starting out was to buy an telescope that was easy to take out and setup, the best scope is the scope you use often.

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  4. Is there an "entry-level" for radio astronomy? by HarryCaul · · Score: 2, Interesting


    If so, what would a basic setup generally look like? Any pointers to sites?

  5. One of the best pages I've ever seen by mambru · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.astroimagen.com/

    The photos that this guy manages to take are stunning! He gives full details about the process and equipment. The web is in Spanish, I hope it won't be a problem.

  6. Re:Astronomy software by jdray · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You forgot, "Buy equipment that's not frustrating." A friend of mine has an entry-level 8" Dobsonian (?) telescope that he loaned me for a few months so I could try out astronomy. The focus mechanism on it was operated by unscrewing a thumbscrew that held the eyepiece in place, then sliding said eyepiece up and down in its socket to focus. The slightest bump to the main tube pushed the thing out of inclination angle, but (maddeningly), moving it on purpose was an effort (too much push, it went way too far, not enough push, it wouldn't move at all).

    In the end, I could find the moon just fine and get focused on it, but never anything else. He had plenty of experience, and once when I was over at his place (after returning the telescope), he lined it up on Jupiter and focused in for me. It was beautiful, and I could even make out a couple of the moons when I knew what I was looking for.

    With a motorized base and a dial-&-gear focus mechanism, I think I could really get into astronomy. Without those things, any scope I owned would sit and gather dust.

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  7. Re:Astronomy software & Photography by greedyturtle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The other two mentioned are also open source and run on linux. It actually begs the question: Are commercial programs such as these even available?

    I'd also like to know if any professionals use these (Celestia, Kstars and Stellarium) or if they have their own fancy-pants versions.

  8. Re:Astronomy software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

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