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Does 802.11n Spell the 'End of Ethernet'?

alphadogg writes "Is the advent of the 802.11n wireless standard the 'end of Ethernet'... at least in terms of client access to the LAN? That's the provocative title, and thesis, of a new report in which the author began looking into the question when he heard a growing number of clients asking whether it was time to discontinue wired LAN deployments for connecting clients. Would 11n, the next generation high-throughput Wi-Fi, make the RJ45 connector in the office wall as obsolete as gaslights?"

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  1. wait by wwmedia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    didnt they say the same about 802.11g not too long ago?

    and what do we have now? both systems coexisting with each other

    same gonna happen again

  2. Re:Um, no. by Praedon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think we will always have wired networks, for the simple fact that as technology progresses, so do the methods of spying and such. It's much easier to eavesdrop on WiFi than it is on a wired network. You would need physical access to the wired network in order to carry out your plans for espionage.

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  3. No by DJ+Jones · · Score: 5, Insightful
    RJ45 jacks will never be obsolete for one reason... Security.

    And I don't know what you're talking about, I still use gaslights.

  4. Shared medium. by saintlupus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't wait for wireless to take over everything. Collisions and shared bandwidth are awesome. I miss hubs so much.

    --saint

  5. Re:Um, no. by niceone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And that's going to happen just after the Porcine Aviation Assocation makes WiFi actually run at the speeds that it says in the headlines.

  6. Re:Um, no. by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yep...I was thinking one word when I read this:

    SECURITY.

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  7. Yes, of course by blueZ3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is totally a replacement for wired connectivity, because in a building with three or four hundred computer users, there won't be any radio interference between wireless cards. I'm sure that there won't be any issues in high-density deployments. I mean, the four PCs in my house never, ever have any reduction in speed when they're all connected simultaneously.

    What do they teach them in schools these days?

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  8. Re:Um, no. by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right. There are too many reasons to use ethernet, and security is just one of them. Ethernet is also more reliable, and it's still faster. 802.11n is not running as fast as 1Gbps (which is what both my home and work network are running at). Give it a couple years, and we'll probably all be running 10Gbps networks, and though wireless speeds will improve too, I see no reason to believe that they'll ever catch up. Also, wired connections are more reliable, easier to control, etc.

    Now, I don't see much reason to string ethernet through people's homes, at least not most of the time. Use WPA, secure each of your computers (password protect them and firewall any services you aren't using, preferably don't use Windows). You'll be fine, and 802.11n is probably way faster than any internet connection you might have.

  9. Reasons not to change. by GodCandy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First I will admit. I have an 802.11n setup at my house for my laptop and a desktop on the far side of the house. It works well for this.

    The issues are as follows.
    Security: There is little or none. All of your transactions are flying through the air and anyone with the proper equipment (which can be obtained at the local electronics store for very little money) can intercept those packets. Even if you bother to use encryption all that has to be done is some processing to "crack" the encryption. Without breaking into my house/office and tying into my physical copper network there is no way to intercept packets on a copper network.

    Stability: I cant speak for 802.11n as of yet. My AP has never been rebooted and my clients stay conected. However my prior 802.11x products were somewhat less stable.

    Speed: 802.11x is a bus topology much like a hub. True they are running a great deal of bandwidth now. For few users this is great however what happens when you have 20 users on the same access point sharing the same bandwidth.

    I do however see uses in business for this. I don't think at this time it is the end all replacement for the simple switch and the complicated wiring closet yet.

  10. Re:Um, no. by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, its called STP instead of UTP...

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  11. Don't forget denial-of-service by coyote-san · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't forget that there are multiple aspects to security. You don't want the sleazy competitor sniffing your network, but you don't want them blasting your network out of existence two days before the RFQ is due either. The bad actor could be hard to track down if they're using a highly directional antenna and an illegal amplifier.

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  12. Re:Um, no. by fbjon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to mention: until someone figures out a way of turning radio from shared to switched medium for cheap, it ain't replacing anything.

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  13. Shared bandwidth by gravis777 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem that clients in our building seem to neglect is that, yeah, while we are running G, which is 56Mbps, that does not mean that it will be only half the speed of their 100 Mbps ethernet connection, its generally much slower. The problem is, on ethernet, you have a 100 Mbps connection straight to the switch, dedicated to you. Over the wireless, you are sharing that 54Mbps connection with 50 other people in your area, so you are not getting 54 Mbps, you are getting between 1-5 Mbps. This is why you ge an excellent signal, then almost cannot browse the internet. i think we finally got it through most of our users minds that the wireless was there as a convienince, not at a replacement for the ethernet, and most will now use their ethernet cable.

  14. Re:Um, no. by somersault · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they really want in, they're going to get in. Most people's houses are going to be pretty easily accessible compared to trying to crack WPA wireless encryption.

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