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"Lifesaver Bottle" Filters Viruses Out of Water

gihan_ripper writes "British inventor Michael Pritchard has developed a small self-contained filter system that instantly cleans water, removing all particles larger than 15nm. He said that he was inspired after seeing the effects of Hurricane Katrina and the Boxing Day tsunami in 2004; people had to wait for many days to get fresh water and many died from drinking contaminated water. The filter is so effective that it can purify dirty river water and even fecal matter. His bottle will shortly be available for sale from Lifesaver Systems at an expected cost of £190 (approx. $385)."

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  1. Re:No Shit?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It removes all particles larger than 15 nm, but chemical bond lengths are typically 0.2 nm, so this bottle will not filter small molecules such as Urea.

  2. LifeStraw by mutende · · Score: 5, Informative

    More than one year ago, BBC mentioned the LifeStraw that filters water as you drink. It's able to filter 700 litres of water and was at that time priced at less than two quid (probably the wholesale price). See also the inventor Torben Vestergaard Frandsen's website.

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  3. Re:$385!? by tylernt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not to mention the fact that hikers and backpackers have used $60 filter bottles for years now that do pretty much the same thing. Not only that, but I already have filter straws with activated carbon in my 72-hour kits. They cost about $10. Another company makes a small battery-powered water filter with a UV light in it to sterilize pathogens.

    I'm to lazy to RTFA, but this thing sounds like a ridiculously expensive non-invention. The already existing, less-expensive technology might not get virii out, but you're generally not concerned with virii in drinking water -- it's the physical matter, bacteria, and cysts that are the main concern.

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  4. Re:Pee by 808140 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This actually takes quite a while; for most people, urine is upwards of 98% water. Sure, if you drink nothing but urine for months you may develop problems -- but if you're stuck somewhere and water is in short supply, you should definitely drink your urine. It only takes the average human 3 or 4 days to die of thirst, and if you don't know when help will arrive, don't risk it.

  5. Pretty much, but not quite... by interactive_civilian · · Score: 4, Informative
    tylernt said:

    Not to mention the fact that hikers and backpackers have used $60 filter bottles for years now that do pretty much the same thing.
    Based on the summary, not quite the same thing. I have a Katadyn Pocket filter which is generally regarded as one of the BEST consumer water filter systems (I've been told that it is basically a scaled down version of what the UN uses for refugee missions). It is rugged, not too heavy (though much lighter ones exists), pumps about 1 liter per minute, and a single filter cartridge is good for 50,000 liters.

    HOWEVER, it can only filter particles down to 200nm, which is good enough to get just about all bacteria and some viruses. But, this new one filters down to 15nm which covers just about everything. Slap a charcoal filter on it to absorb toxins, and it sounds like a hell of a water system.

    Still, you can have my Pocket filter when you pry it from my cold, dead, dysenteric fingers. ;)

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  6. Cheap Water Filtration by grassy_knoll · · Score: 5, Informative

    You need 2 buckets, a cotton t-shirt, propane camp stove ( or a heat source to boil water of some kind ) and bleach.

    Cover the mouth of the empty bucket with the cotton t-shit.

    Fill the other bucket with suspect water.

    Pour the water from the full bucket into the empty bucket through the t-shirt. This filters out the larger baddies.

    Presuming at least one of the buckets is metal, you can boil water in that. If not, a pot of some sort is required. The idea is to boil the water to a rolling boil for at least one minute.

    Allow the water to cool for at least 30 minutes. Once cool, add 16 drops of bleach per gallon ( or 8 drops per 2 liter bottle ). If the water smells faintly of chlorine, it's safe to drink. If not, repeat adding the bleach.

    Thanks to the Red Cross for directions.

    A $400 water filtration system is nice, and can be cost effective in some cases ( as others pointed out, shipping and distributing small empty bottles is easier that shipping and distributing water ), but not having one doesn't mean you have no options.

    1. Re:Cheap Water Filtration by Kozz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, shouldn't most of the microorganisms be killed by the boil itself? Granted, the boil doesn't filter chemicals, but if you're simply trying to kill giardia, e. coli and cryptosporidium, you probably only need to bring the water to a boil and that's it.
      http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/how-long-do-you-need-to-boil-water/
      If you disagree, I would like to know more about which points the URL above got wrong -- I'm always open to learning.

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  7. Re:No Shit?!? by Pentavirate · · Score: 4, Informative

    The LifeStraw filters particles from 125 micron down to minimal 15 micron

    The Lifesaver Bottle cuts out everything larger than 15nm. 15nm = .015 microns

    So yes, this is new news.

  8. Re:Pee by Loke+the+Dog · · Score: 5, Informative

    You'll develop problems much faster than that if you drink your own urine.

    98% sounds much, but it isn't. It means that the salinity can be up to 2% - not far from sea water. If you drink it, it will make you dry out faster than not drinking at all. See, that's how the (healthy) kidneys work: the stuff you pee out can never have a lower salinity than the rest of your body.

  9. Re:For the last time....the problem was not katrin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Damn folks still thinking that Katrina only affected New Orleans. Katrina
    wiped out entire cities on the Mississippi Gulf coast. Infrastructure
    was destroyed for at least 100 miles inland. The military had to **cut**
    their way down HWY 49 to reach the coast.

    So, to correct your statement, A large percentage of New Orleans problems
    were caused, post hurricane, by the failure of the levees. A large percentage
    of the problems caused by directly Katrina were actually in Mississippi.

  10. The myth of safe water from lakes and rivers by mi · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...or live in a country where you can actually just drink the water from lakes and rivers.

    There is no such country, and there never was. That the pastoral stories you read never mentioned water-born parasites and illnesses (except for the one Slavic fable, where a boy turns into a goat after drinking from a puddle agaisnt his older sister's cautioning), does not mean it never happened.

    It is not so much due to the much maligned modern pollution, it is due to the many organisms, whose existence predates man's. Stomach worms are just one — and fairly benign — example.

    And if must drink such unfiltered and unboiled water, don't drink from a lake or other standing water. Try to find the fastest running stream you can — you'll have a better chance...

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  11. Re:Pee by Palpitations · · Score: 3, Informative

    It may sound funny, but it's actually a really valid, and incredibly easy way to make a solar still.

    You place stones in a container to weigh it down, place that in a larger container filled with water, and cover it in plastic. A stone placed on top of the plastic sheet, directly over the inner container, allows the condensate that forms on the plastic to run down and drip into the inner container. Simple, effective way to get water that is safe to drink.

    Saying you need a few containers is complicating things though. I have built and tested the idea using aluminum foil, plastic wrap, twigs (for support), and some river rocks. It worked perfectly - and I carry enough foil and plastic wrap in my wallet to produce it any time I need to. You may not get a lot of water out of it - and it's generally better to build a fire and use the foil to boil water to sterilize it, but if that isn't available it's great. Folded up, it takes up about as much space as 2-3 credit cards, well worth the space in my wallet if you ask me.

  12. Re:SpaceSuits anyone? by lubricated · · Score: 3, Informative

    "In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"

    and condensation heats the air back up. You still have to get rid of the waste heat, somehow. Merely transfering it from the inner part of the suit to the outer is insufficient.

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  13. Re:For the last time....the problem was not katrin by JDevers · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, New Orleans wasn't "built" below sea level, it just sank to that point... When it was constructed the land was chosen BECAUSE it was the highest land near the mouth of the Mississippi. The problem is the weight of the city has caused the land to sink over time, resulting in it actually being BELOW sea level currently.

  14. Re:SpaceSuits anyone? by joto · · Score: 3, Informative

    The suits weren't skintight, they captured the moisture after evaporation.
    Yes, but how would they offload the waste heat, since the warm moist air couldn't just blow away into the atmosphere?

    Through a mechanism known as "this book is a work of fiction". Another option would be active cooling with fans and cooling ribs. I'm sure you could think of other options too.

  15. Re:drinking pee is harder than you think by Palpitations · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an aside, carrying condoms in your wallet is generally a bad idea if you plan on using them for their intended goal - but since this is /. after all, I doubt anyone here has much of a use for one. An unlubricated condom in your wallet is a great way to collect urine, or transport water back to your fire. For anyone who spends time in the wild, a simple unlubricated condom or two in your survival kit is a great, and often overlooked, thing.

  16. Re:Stilsuits by PeelBoy · · Score: 3, Informative

    And they weren't bottles ;)

    They covered your entire body and even had breathing apparatus and nose fittings to catch the moister while you breath.

    When you slept at night you slept in a stilltent.

  17. Re:$385!? by joto · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are they rated for 20 nanometers, or 0.2 microns? Because they aren't the same. 1 micron is 1000 nanometers.

    While this distinction seem important, it really isn't. Most people who are getting sick from bad water, is not getting sick from viruses. Most people getting sick from water aren't even getting sick from bacteria, they get sick from parasites. Furthermore, bacteria and viruses aren't usually swimming alone in the water. Usually they cling to each other, or to other particles, forming what is known as "biofilms". Thus, even a filter with larger pores will filter out most of the harmful organisms, even if the pores are much larger then the organisms you look out for.

    A water filter that has smaller pores need more time (or pumping force) to filter the same amount of water. There is no silver bullet. Your filter is either good, or fast. You can't have both.

    And saying your filter is "good for 4000 liter" is completely useless. Does it mean 4000 liters of already-clean tap-water, 4000 liter of somewhat unsafe water, or 4000 liter of disgusting feces? Does it mean that after 4000 liter the filter is completely clogged, or does it mean that after 4000 liter the filter is only half as effective in letting water through as when it was new? Besides, what maintenance does the filter need in order to be useful for 4000 liter? Can additional maintenance prolong the life even further?

    But there's more. Chemical treatment (e.g. iodine) kills small organisms (e.g. viruses) fast, but takes a long time to kill the larger parasites. So by combining a large-pored (i.e. fast, cheap) filter with chemical treatment (2-5 drops of bleach per liter, or iodine pills if you don't like to taste bleach), you get the best of both worlds: fast and safe.

  18. Re:drinking pee is harder than you think by Palpitations · · Score: 3, Informative

    For one thing, condoms definitely make the collection of urine easier, for obvious reasons. They are also thinner and have a wider opening, which makes it easier to collect water from a river (larger opening and less resistance to filling up and stretching to max capacity). Not only that, they come in a protective foil package which helps resist punctures while being stored, and they're sterile.

  19. Re:drinking pee is harder than you think by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hate to say it, but your father is just plain wrong about drinking urine.

    So says the US Army Field Manual. So says the SAS Survival Handbook (no link, but page 494). So says Dr. William Elfarr, former head of the Texas Urological Society. So says Master Sergeant Gary L. Benton, survival instructor to B-52 crews. So says Tom Brown Jr., survivor school founder and instructor. So says Equipped.com, a survival site. So says Adventure Sports Online in its 5 basic survival tips. And on, and on, and on.

    Your body is getting rid of urine for a reason. Urea is toxic, and the saline component of urine means that it dehydrates instead of hydrating.

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