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Microsoft Loses EU Anti-Trust Appeal

Kugrian writes "Microsoft has lost its appeal against a record 497m euro (£343m; $690m) fine imposed by the European Commission in a long-running competition dispute. The European Court of First Instance upheld the ruling that Microsoft had abused its dominant market position."

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  1. Court's press realease by zombie_monkey · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiques/cp07/aff/cp070063en.pdf

    They have not yet paid another fine that was imposed on them for not paying this fine, as the BBC article mentions, although in no great depth:

    Last year, Microsoft was told to pay daily fines adding up to 280.5 million euros over a six-month period, after it failed to adhere to the 2004 decision. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4552214.stm - another BBC piece specifically about the daily fines. Does anyone know if they've paid them or not by now?
  2. Re:A Pittance of a Fine..... by zebslash · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem for them is not the fine, but instead, from now on, the compliance to the ruling, which will lead them to change the content of Windows software, the parts they will be able to install on new computers. That's a lot more important than money.
    Don't forget the ruling is 152-page long, and therefore, they will have to digest and comply with all the court orders to avoid paying even more fine. That may be difficult for them in a market that becomes more competitive.

  3. Re:Please queue the anti EU replies here by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 5, Informative

    Won't queue anything here. Anyone who knows a bit about the EU, know that this is bollocks. They go after anyone abusing the market. As Volkswagen, for example... Not a US company at all...

  4. Re:Damages, but sanctions? by sepluv · · Score: 5, Informative

    The fines will increase (exponentially I believe) until they pay. The court can freeze and seize their European assets and they have much of their money within the EU in Ireland as a US tax dodge. Also, the EU is by far MS's largest market. Not complying would be a BAD idea.

    BTW, the legal detail is over at Groklaw (basically the court sided with the EC except a minor point about the EC giving too much power to the MS appointed monitoring trustee) and there is a joint FSFE/Samba press release. Also, the the court published the full judgement and other court docs.

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  5. Re: Least important part of the judgement... by Dolda2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Note, though, that it isn't actually code that they have been ordered to release, but rather protocol specifications. Which is, of course, what everyone wants. No article I've read on the subject so far has made any mention of how the specifications need to be licensed, however. If anyone is in the know, please share that information.

  6. Re:who cares.., by headkase · · Score: 4, Informative

    As for a CD player "bundled" with a car, CD's follow an ISO standard so with all manufacturers following a standard the consumer is completely free to replace the player with another from a different supplier. This means that competition is unhindered so the market can work as intended - the case of providing a CD player with a car is a matter of convenience for the customer not an anticompetitive act.

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  7. Re:Go Samba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Let's just hope that Microsoft doesn't decide to get a little medieval (or litigious) and throw up a bunch of lawsuits to stop Samba's blatant infringement Where do people get stupid ideas like that from?

    Microsoft networking is an obscured version of the SMB protocol. SMB is IBM's invention, not Microsoft's.

    Microsoft obscured IBM's SMB protocol into Windows networking after Microsoft had gained a dominant market share. Microsoft has no patent about that obscuration ... because in order to get a patent one must reveal how an invention works.

    Samba infringes nothing. Samba is just another implementation of IBM's SMB protocol, obscured in the same trade-secret way that Microsoft obscured it. It is perfectly legal (and in no way infringing anything) to reverse engineer a trade secret.

    Patents clearly do not, and cannot apply here.
  8. Monopolies are not illegal by Roy+Ward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Abusing a monopoly (anti-competitive behaviour) is illegal.

    When a company has a monopoly, they get some extra rules to play by. Microsoft has not been following these.

  9. It's ironic choice of car analogy by EMB+Numbers · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's ironic that you chose your particular car analogy, because there was a famous USA court ruling that car manufactures could not artificially restrict the ability of third parties to install car radios not supplied by the car manufacturer. USA auto manufacturers tried to force customers to buy radios exclusively from the car manufacturer by using non-standard electrical connections and deliberately restrictive physical constraints. Then the car manufacturers claimed that their physical constraints and connector designs were protected intellectual property.

    The fight continues to this day: See the "Right to Repair" act. http://www.aftermarket.org/Government/Government.asp

  10. Re:Quel surprise! by Tom · · Score: 3, Informative

    Surprise surprise, a European court decided to rob an American company of half a billion dollars, Language is a bitch if you can't use it properly. See "to rob" means "a: to deprive of something due, expected, or desired b: to withhold unjustly or injuriously" (merriam-webster). A court, being the place that finds on issues of just or unjust, doesn't "rob".

    Yes, I know you didn't mean it literally, but only to evoke the emotion of injustice and pitty for the poor victim - which is exactly why I point it out. MS isn't a poor victim, but a legally convicted criminal - btw. in the US as much as in the EU.

    after said company complied with order after absurd order to change its practices. The court says different. Last I checked, courts and not random /. users decide if a criminal complied with his probation conditions.
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