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Astronomers Find Stars 7 Billion Light Years Away
StArSkY writes "The Age has an article about an international team of astronomers that has discovered 14 galaxies, opening up a new era of 'galaxy hunting'. Using an infrared instrument in Chile (the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope ) — the researchers have been able to look through the glare of 20 Quasar's to identify previously obscured galaxies. 'Light from the newly found galaxies comes from the time the universe was about 6 billion years old, less than half its current age. By studying the light, the researchers have determined they are starburst galaxies that form lots of new stars -- the equivalent of 20 suns a year. Dr Murphy, who began working on the project while a research fellow at the University of Cambridge, described the results as a great leap forward. The findings have been accepted for publication in The Astrophysical Journal. '"
I mean who cares about gallaxy?. i still care about paying my tomorrows bills and fuel bills and need to complete my schedule.
We still don't know exactly what light 'is'. We still don't exactly understand /what/ electriciy is, we still have 8 conflicting definitions of it from elementary school to college regarding that. We still don't have actual concrete proof that the red shift is what we think it is, we only assume it is that because that is our current understanding of the nature of sound (from our current understanding of it.. eg, red shift being the doppler effect, but with light.). And knowing this, we still claim to know how far something is away from us using some weak parallex sine cosine tanagents.
/now/ call scientific research.
If this is how watered down our definition of science has become, it's less than pathetic.
'It would seem that, as used, the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox hunting, bullfighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.' -orwell
It would seem the same can be applied to science, which used to be simply what we knew to be true from observing, testing, and reproducing. Now, instead of what has been proven we call anything 'science' that uses some form of what we
So, if I really wanted to, I could spend a ton of some random universities funds to research how long it takes for example, shit to fall of out my ass, and call it scientific research.
Suddently, shit falling out of my ass becomes scientific.
yay.
Enough with the Australian flag-waving, already!
We get it, you love your precious Australia and believe that every single article on Slashdot should feature that country and its people!
It was bad enough when Slashdot editors ignored any story that wasn't from-or-about the USA, but now we have to endure all these Aussie non-stories too?
Grow up. Nationalism is for childish losers.
as far as i know no creationist puts the age of the earth at 4,500 years old- give or take a few hundred years.
/amazing/ amount of science behind them to back them up, but their foundation usually rests on one huge assumption that really casts the end result into a dubious light. a good book on that is 'the mythology of modern dating methods'.
/told/ what to believe, growing up, but consider this. the bible believing christian got indoctrinated by a organized propaganda machine one day out of the week for maybe 2 hours a day, while everyone else gets indoctrinated by the state 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, 150+ days a year.
they estimate ~6,000 years, with the flood happening ~1,500 years afterward (which is where you got your 4,500 from).
it's a decent jab at creationism but it just goes to show how little the general public knows about it.
did you know the oldest tree on the face of the planet is a bristlecone pine tree in southern california named methuselah? its estimated to be 4700-4300 years old. pretty old tree. but with the earth having 'life' for a few billion years it stands to reason there should be a much much older tree around, somewhere.
did you know the oldest coral reef formation (the great barrier reefs) were, by almost everyone, agreed to be 4500 years old? the only older dates supposed came from modern dating methods. most of these methods have an
im not saying cast away your belief in evolution-- but what i am saying is at least do enough research into what the other side believes to from resources aside from the ones that make it their purpose not to believe such. at least the general creationist can tell you how long the evolutionists generally believe the earth has been around.
this all goes back to one major thing evolutionists see from one side. most will say 'the only reason christians believe that nonsense is that they were force fed it as children by their parents making them go to school' -- with that i agree fully. we are
as for myself, i do not know for sure either way. i dont like being told what to believe. they both seem identical in their core believes.
nothing existed. then something existed. and it created us.
one says it was a supernatural being that, either always existed or created itself, then created us.
the other says it was nothing (that may have always been something, over a gradual repeating process) that created us.
i was a pure supporter of evolution from my childhood. after all, i was told as a child before i even knew how to spell my own name that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago-- the first time i heard people thought the earth was 6000 years old i almost had a panic attack. how could ANYONE be that stupid?! did they miss KINDERGARDEN?!
when i read the 'evolution cruncher' i almost had the same panic attack. how could anyone teach me as a fact, in kindergarden, something that the majority of scientists agree couldn't have happened?
life goes on. maxim fhm mtv sports scores automobile prices alcohol and every other unimportant issue takes center stage while the most important subjects for musing become boring at best.