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Do Not Call Listings to Expire in 2008

Ant writes "Yahoo! News report that the cherished dinner hour void of telemarketers could vanish next year for millions of people when phone numbers begin dropping off the national/United States (U.S.)'s Do Not Call list. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which oversees the list, says there is a simple fix. But some lawmakers think it is a hassle to expect people to re-register their phone numbers every five years. Numbers placed on the registry, begun in June 2003, are valid for five years. For the millions of people who signed onto the list in its early days, their numbers will automatically drop off beginning next June if they do not enroll again."

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  1. Does the DNC list even mean anything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    My mobile # is on the DNC list and I still get calls. I have filed complaints with them and still get the same people calling over and over again. Emperion Marketing (505 647 9618)is my worst offender. I keep getting calls from these asshats, though I have called them and told them to take me off the list. I have filed 4 complaints about them and it hasn't done a thing.

    BTW, register your number here https://www.donotcall.gov/register/Reg.aspx

    1. Re:Does the DNC list even mean anything? by GreyPoopon · · Score: 4, Informative

      keep getting calls from these asshats, though I have called them and told them to take me off the list. I have filed 4 complaints about them and it hasn't done a thing.

      You do realize that you can take them to small claims court yourself, right? I strongly suggest that you keep a log of their calls and anything you tell them.
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    2. Re:Does the DNC list even mean anything? by drspliff · · Score: 3, Informative

      I had a call today from a company trying to offer me a loan, did the usual stuff asking them to remove me from whatever list I was on and to stop calling - they said to call back on a number (national rate, about 10p a min) only to get transferred to the "customer relations" department which never picked up.

      Then 3 hours later I get an advertisment SMS from the same company, call back up, get transferred again, and the "customer relations" department never picked up - again.

      I've been on the UK TPS (Telephone Preference Service, the UK do not call list) for several years, but still get these stupid companies calling up that I have no idea who they are (so obviously they cant have a previous "relationship" with me).

      I finally got through to the customer relations department after 20 minutes on hold, explained to them that they can be fined upto £5000 for every offence only to be told I have to write in to their marketing department to get it removed.

      I mean seriously, WTF! I've spent about £5 on phone calls today just trying to sort it out with this asshole company, only to be flogged off with a standard excuse and a PObox address.

    3. Re:Does the DNC list even mean anything? by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Those 'dead lines' are often automated dialer's. Once they get a connection they notify the first available person.

      I think they are banned here in my area. If you are going to bug me, you have to do it yourself :)

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    4. Re:Does the DNC list even mean anything? by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fuck the DNC list. When I had a land line, don't have this problem anymore, a few years ago. I figured there was only one way to handle it and build myself a call screening box. Here's how it worked. I got a modem that did the caller id thing. Then I sniffed around and found a program that would screen my calls. There where tons of them but the links I had to the free one are no longer any good. Do a google search I guess to find them now.

      Here is how it worked. I had two lists a fuck off list and ring through list. The program would ring on the computer when some one was calling so the computer would ring. I turned off the ringer on the phone. When someone called that was on the fuck off list, private number, or blocked or unlisted, the program would simply pick up the phone then hand up. It would never even ring.

      If you where not on ether list then you got dumped into voice mail to leave a message. Again the computer wouldn't even ring. If you got dumped into my voice mail and didn't leave a message I added you to the fuck off list. So if the computer didn't know you and you where to lazy to leave a message fuck you.

      If you where on my white list then the computer would ring letting me know I had a call. My annoying phone calls went to almost nothing. They went to nothing a year later when I ripped the fucking phone out by the wires.

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    5. Re:Does the DNC list even mean anything? by Drathos · · Score: 2, Informative

      During the campaign season it gets really bad, with 7 or 8 calls a night from a computer program to deliver a message. I usually hang up on them. You think that's bad? Last fall, I came home from spending a half day with some friends to find 34 messages on my machine. Almost all of them were a recording: 'This was a political survey call. We'll try again later.'

      Then there was 'The Battle of the Answering Machine.' Opposing candidates were leaving pre-recorded messages on my machine smearing each other. Final tally was 178 messages (nearly 50-50 split) over the span of 3 weeks. Gotta love Virginia campaigning..
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  2. Can't They Send a Reminder? by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 5, Informative

    They have an email address associated with each phone number. Why can't they send out a reminder 6 months before your number's expiration so you can renew?

    FYI- You can renew your Do Not Call registrations at any time, even if they are not about to expie. I renewed all my numbers today, despite some of them not expiring for over a year.

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  3. Re:what happened to privacy? by belmolis · · Score: 3, Informative

    What I described is the existing procedure, not necessarily what I want. In any case, the phone companies don't need to submit identifying information, just a list of phone numbers. And note that this information is publicly available anyhow, with somewhat more effort. The government can easily enough check whether a phone number has been changed, as can you.

  4. Why cron was invented by giminy · · Score: 4, Informative

    0 0 1 1 * wget --post-data 'ctlACPH1:txtAreaCode=&ctlACPH1:txtPhone=&ctlEmail:txtEmail=&txtConfirmEmail=' https://www.donotcall.gov/Register/Reg.aspx

    You could wrap the wget in an if-block to see if the year is divisible by 5, but I'm lazy.

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    1. Re:Why cron was invented by AeroIllini · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yeah, but that assumes the page won't change in five years. Better to just do this:

      0 0 1 1 * echo "Don't forget to update your numbers here: https://www.donotcall.gov/Register/Reg.aspx - Yourself" > tmp && mail -s "Renew your Do-Not-Call registry!" <your-email> < tmp
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  5. If you want to stay off telemarketer phone lists by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 2, Informative
    Then get an unpublished (not unlisted) phone number.

    I've moved twice in the past six years, both times I got an unpublished number. When a telemarketer called, they were informed that this was an unpublished number and to please put it on their DNC list. That brought all telemarketing calls to a screeching halt.

    When I started my new job last year I moved to a new city and ordered a second land line phone number with distinctive ring for off duty support for work emergencies. Both numbers are unpublished. After the first couple of false alarms with telemarketers calling the "hot line", they stopped real fast.

    It does not cost much more for unpublished numbers.

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  6. Re:How many? by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Informative

    What percent of the population keep a number for that long, anyway?


    Probably almost everyone who doesn't move outside of a local exchange (that is, excluding people that rotate numbers because they are repeated targets of harrassment); I'd expect probably a sizable majority of people and a slightly smaller majority of phone numbers (as second and additional lines may be more transitory.)

    If the Do-Not-Call list were to never expire, eventually it will fill to all available U.S. phone numbers.


    It would make some sense to make it so that you registered through your phone service provider, and they pulled the listing of the database if the subscriber discontinued use of the number. It makes more sense than a fixed 5-year period, at any rate.
  7. Already renewed by amigabill · · Score: 2, Informative

    I started getting telemarketing calls again a couple months ago and reregistered all my numbers. I'd rather not have to, but it's worth the couple minutes involved. I get very little phone spam, mostly mortgage offers which I turn down by saying "It's illegal for you to be talking to me right now".