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OSI Asks Microsoft to Change the MS-PL

Xenographic writes "The OSI has identified two significant flaws in the Microsoft Permissive License, and is unlikely to approve it as an OSI license in its current state. Specifically, the OSI is worried about the way the MS-PL is incompatible with so many other OSI-approved licenses and how misleading that makes the term 'permissive' in the license's name. Now the ball is in Microsoft's court and they can choose to amend or withdraw it from consideration. From the article: 'The MPL is also particularly restrictive, and is uniquely incompatible with the maximum number of other open-source licenses, [president of OSI Michael Tiemann] said, noting that in its examination of license proliferation, the OSI had encouraged experimentation with license terms to encourage new ones to be written that were better than what currently existed.'"

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  1. Double standard? by Macthorpe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the OSI is worried about the way the MS-PL is incompatible with so many other OSI-approved licenses Like the GPLv3, then?

    (I have karma to burn, apparently)
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    1. Re:Double standard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apparently, anybody can troll and get karma bonus by using the magic phrase "I have karma to burn".

  2. Re:Same question as always. by mmcuh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because you can't say that a given license is either more or less permissive than any other. It's not a total order. Take GPLv2 and GPLv3 for example. If either of them were strictly more permissive, you would be able to relicense from one to the other. But you can't since the GPLv3 prohibits you from using patents to close off the code, and GPLv2 prohibits you from adding any new probihitions. Or take the XFree86 license and GPLv[2-3]. The XFree86 license requires attribution to a greater extent than the GPL, while GPL requires other things that the XFree86 license does not. Neither can be said to be "more permissive", because they require and allow different things.

  3. Re:what's incompatible? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Normally I'd say the parent AC is engaging in flamebait:

    OSI is looking for any excuse to reject this license.

    especially with the usual digs at the GPL (funny how the second oldest free software in common use is the one everyone blames for incompatibility with the new licenses that came out in the last five to ten years.)

    However, in this case, the "any excuse to reject this license" claim may well be right. Eric S. Raymond, on the OSI Board's blog, has somewhat unhelpfully suggested that he's leaning towards wanting the licenses rejected for reasons other than their compliance with the open source definition, namely Microsoft's entirely unrelated OOXML activities.

    I'm not sure the OSI is being smart in associating itself with that view.

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