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Annual IT Salary Survey Finds Dissatisfaction

BobB writes "A storm seems to be brewing in the IT job market. Pay raises have continued to outpace inflation, and bonuses are downright impressive — 11.6% on average. Yet, as the 2007 Network World Salary Survey finds, dissatisfaction over salary packages is rampant."

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  1. Inflation by michaelmalak · · Score: 3, Informative
    Inflation computed using pre-Clinton CPI formulas has been running about 8% for the past 20 years, according to shadowstats.com. I currently make 4x as a seasoned professional now than what I did 20 years ago as a fresh college graduate. At 8% inflation per year, I'm currently making less than I did 20 years ago.

    A lot of people go to Wal-Mart, see the low prices, and think inflation is low. They forget about housing, college tuition, and healthcare, which have all been running at double-digit percentage increases annually for the past several years.

  2. Re:Money is important but not the only considerati by JanneM · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm willing to give up a lot to have such a great job but I think I should still make enough to support me and my wife without my wife needing to work too. Why, exactly? Not that making a bundle is a bad thing - I'd love to as well - but, I mean, what's so terrible about both adults in the household earning a salary?
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  3. Re:European salaries != US salaries by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'll try. These figures are for the Bay Area, CA (pretty much the epicenter of IT in the USA if not the world). And I'll keep it in Euros to make the comparison easier, using today's exchange rate of 1 Euro = 1.41 USD.

    Taxes on salary in various 'slices' (this is federal income tax + social security tax):

    16.2% for 0 to 5,354 Euro
    21.2% for 5,355 to 21,737 Euro
    31.2% for 21,738 to 52,624 Euro
    34.2% for 52,625 - 67,286 Euro
    28% + 4,171 Euro for 67,287 - 109,787 Euro
    33% + 4,171 Euro for 109,788 - 238,688 Euro
    35% + 4,171 Euro for 238,689 Euro and the remainder above

    (the reason for the last three amounts is that social security tax is only on salary up to 67,286 Euros, salary in excess of that is not assessed social security tax)

    You also have to add in state tax, which in CA is between 1% and 9%, depending on how much you make. It's too much trouble to work that into the table above, because the ranges are all different, but if you make more than 28,616 Euros (which just about any person working in IT would), it's 9.3%. So add that makes the tax rates closer to 40% - 50% total for the medium to high tax brackets.

    Furthermore, there are small taxes assessed for things like state disability insurance, but these don't sum up to more than 1% usually.

    State sales tax: 7.25% (if I rememer correctly)

    - Medical insurance: free (paid for by employer) if you have a decent job, anywhere from 350 - 900 Euros per month (depending on the size of your family and your age) if you do not. I personally have never had to pay for medical insurance, and most IT workers would be the same.
    - Childcare: ~5 Euro/hour
    - Gasoline: 0.56 Euro/liter (= 3.00 Dollar/gallon)
    - Public transport: about 3 Euro for 25KM by train, or 6 Euro for a 25KM with a return ticket (I am basing this on $4.00 USD for Caltrain between two "zones", which I am guessing is about 25 KM)

    As to new cars, they are much cheaper in the USA and there are no additional taxes beyond state sales tax (although I have never bought a new car, I am just assuming this is true). That E 32,840 car probably would only cost E 22,000 total in the USA.

    As you can see, the USA income tax rate is not so much different from your rate, when you factor in all income taxes paid (we pay alot of individual taxes in the USA - federal, state, local (sometimes - in New York City you have to also pay a local income tax!), social security, disability, etc, etc) the rate is typically somewere around 33% total in the USA (if you have a good I.T. job and are making $80,000+ USD per year), whereas it looks like around 40% in your country.

    The difference is that sales tax (you call it VAT) is higher in your country (20% vs. 7.25%) and most individual items probably cost more in your country (the cost of gasoline, childcare, and a car demonstrate this).

    One big factor you did not mention is the cost of buying a house or renting an apartment. In the Bay Area a modest size family home is at least $700,000 USD (about E 500,000), and renting a moderate apartment is about $1,800 per month (E 1,300). Owning a home in the Bay Area is very, very expensive (compare to homes in Canton, Ohio where my mom lives - houses there are about $150,000 USD, or about E 100,000).

    In general, the USA is a very inexpensive place to live.

    I have been living in New Zealand for almost a year now and I'd say that it's somewhere between the USA and your country in taxes and cost of living; more expensive than the USA but not as expensive as Europe.

  4. Re:The peasants are revolting! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

    Generally I am satisfied with my job. It offers a lot of perks that I can hardly find in other jobs. I mean, there ain't many jobs where they don't really care when you show up (I come around noon, usually), where you can pretty much do whatever you please (though my interests somehow happily coincide with the company's) and nobody ever bothers to check what you do and whether you actually do what you're supposed to do? I mean, yes, I do my job, and more than satisfying according to my superiors, but still, it's kinda odd that nobody ever wants anything from me than my final reports.

    Still, a bit more salary would be nice. Though, what for? I'd just buy more computers or gadgets.

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  5. Re:European salaries != US salaries by locofungus · · Score: 3, Informative

    16.2% for 0 to 5,354 Euro
    21.2% for 5,355 to 21,737 Euro
    31.2% for 21,738 to 52,624 Euro
    34.2% for 52,625 - 67,286 Euro
    28% + 4,171 Euro for 67,287 - 109,787 Euro
    33% + 4,171 Euro for 109,788 - 238,688 Euro
    35% + 4,171 Euro for 238,689 Euro and the remainder above


    In the UK it's approximately:
    0% for 0 to 7000 EUR
    10% for 7000 to 10000 EUR
    22% for 10000 to 53000 EUR
    40% above 53000 EUR

    Additionally we have Employees National insurance
    0% below 7000 EUR
    11% for 7000 to 47000 EUR
    1% above 47000 EUR

    And employers National insurance (Which the employer pays but doesn't appear anywhere on your payslip)
    Which I think is
    12.8% on everything.

    (The employers NI doesn't affect your take home pay - if you earn 100000 before tax you will pay approx 28000 Tax, 5000 NI and take home approx 67000. Your employer will pay an additional 12800 NI so the overall income tax rate is either 33000/100000 = 33% or 45000/112000 = 40% depending on how you account for the employers NI)

    Then there's VAT at 17.5% on almost everything.

    Contributions to a pension scheme are paid gross (but employers NI is still paid)

    Perks such as health insurance are taxed as though they were income but you don't pay any more NI.

    House prices vary a lot. In London, average house prices vary from 1M GBP (1.4M EUR) in Kensington and Chelsea to as little as 200K GBP 280K EUR in Barking and Dagenham.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/uk_house_prices/counties/html/county37.stm

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  6. Re:Money is important but not the only considerati by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Informative

    Studies have shown repeatedly that children who spend a significant amount of time in childcare (I forget what the number of hours involved was, but it was less than the amount of time that would be necessary if both parents work full time) are much more likely to be bullies and have other socially undesirable traits. Additionally, there have been several studies that indicate that children who are home schooled have significantly better social skills than those who went through the school system (considering that the researchers were expecting the opposite result, these latter studies are rather telling). Sorry, I no longer have the references for either of these studies, but I'm sure if you do a little research you can find them. My suspicion is that children are better socialized by being exposed to adults who have already learned how to be responsible than to other children who have not yet learned this.

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