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Linux Crashes the Mobile Party

superglaze writes "ZDNet.co.uk has a fairly comprehensive feature on the progress being made by Linux for cellphones. Seems a pretty consumer deal for now, but there are some interesting hints of Linux eventually challenging Windows Mobile and Symbian in business use. The article also seems to suggest that the two big groups pushing mobile Linux could be amenable to a merger due to common interests."

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  1. Could this be... by ehaggis · · Score: 4, Funny

    The year of Linux on the deskt...Cell Phone?

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    1. Re:Could this be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:Could this be... by tloh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe, but for the love of God, Don't tease a slasdotter with a subject heading that begins with "LINUX CRASHES...." I just about nearly had a heart attack upon reading those first two words.

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    3. Re:Could this be... by Ajehals · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can do most of that now, My PDA's run Linux (familiar), My routers run Linux (Open Embedded), my 'stereo' runs Linux (Debian) my computers run Linux (Debian again) and my media centre runs Linux (Debian yet again). Its a really nice set up. NFS all round so file access, streaming media and internet radio (now using deezer) is possible anywhere. Best of all is that the PDA's are effectively universal remote controls, Wake on LAN means I can turn on and off any device from literally anywhere in the world (which can be fun if I want to confuse the missus or the kids). The next step is for me to get a stable VPN working properly so that I can have even more remote access (I currently use SSH via my mobile, or via my PDA + mobile). Connectivity is wired for anything non portable, WiFi for the portable kit (although one of the PDA's is blue tooth only) Mobile, generally 3G, when I am on the road (via blue tooth so no cables or having to actually look at my phone). So all I need now is a Linux phone (which I will get when my current phone breaks) to complete the set. It is interesting and extremely useful, some bizarre possibilities also become available, like using a PDA as a baby monitor, or using a web cam in our office to check if I left a document on the desk (and then grabbing a soft copy from home and printing it where ever I happen to be.

  2. Lips and Limos? by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Linux Mobile (LiMo) Foundation and the Linux Phone Standards (LiPS)"

    Limo and Lips sounds like the name for a private escort service.. I can see these guys going far in the industry!

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  3. Openmoko by lobiusmoop · · Score: 5, Informative

    The OpenMoko platform is looking like a good bet for a Linux-based phone/pda platform. ARM-based, iPhone-like touchscreen and a nice development kit available. It's due in Oct/Nov I beleve.

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  4. Big Deal by Chineseyes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I can easily sync my linux/wm5/symbian/whatever OS phone to my linux desktop wake me. These are just going to be more linux phones that sync with windows desktop easily but on the linux desktop require using some poorly documented library that may or may not work on the current version of your phone. Then IF your phone happens to work with said library/module you are going to have to edit all sorts of config files and PRAY that your phone is actually recognized. After all this you better hope that your mail client, calendar, and contact manager of choice work with said library.
    I've said this before on slashdot and I know I will be modded troll so enjoy.

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  5. Gartner Analysts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gartner analyst Nick Jones has a more objective stance but he agrees that the platform is not yet consistent or standardised enough to be a serious proposition. "I would advise IT managers not to have anything to do with mobile Linux at this point in time," says Jones. "Imagine I'm an IT manager contemplating standardising on a mobile platform. I want something rich enough to deliver applications, that's available from multiple manufacturers, offering a decent range of handsets with corporate features. Linux just falls down on all of those."
    Is there ever a time when Gartner Analysts think Linux is ok? And of course the recommendation is to not have anything to do with Linux... I mean you wouldn't actually want to get in there and help make it "rich enough to deliver applications" that'd just be silly. Did this guy have the same criticism of Windows Mobile 1.0?
  6. Nokia n800 by emil10001 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I already have my Linux mobile device, and I couldn't be happier with it. It attaches to my bluetooth headphones, keyboard, gps, and phone (DUN) without any problems. I can use xterm to ssh to my server, or stream internet radio or video at work. Oh yea, and I jammed 16GB of SDHC storage into the thing, so I have a decent music selection. The current version does not have a cell phone radio, but the next one will carry a WiMax chip, and possibly some other new hardware goodies.

    On a related note, Ubuntu's Moblin and Red Flag's Midinux will be out relatively soon for use on UMPCs and MIDs. So, I'd agree that things are looking up for those of us who want more than e-mail and pim on our mobile devices. I'm not sure that I care *as much* about having Linux on my cell phone, as long as it will act as a modem to my other device and make phone calls. I want them to be separate, mostly so that I can make sure not to kill the battery on the cell phone, just in case I actually need it.

  7. Don't forget Sun by simong · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of the more interesting developments following the release of the Sun UltraSPARC T1 & T2 chipsets under the GPL has been the S1, a single core implementation of the T1, which combined some other other GPLed hardware can be built as a RISC based system on a chip. It has massive potential as a powerful, low wattage processor that could compete with ARM and Intel in the portable device marketplace. It might be a couple of years in the future but I think it has the potential to be a competitor. It should run Solaris and BSD as well as Linux.

  8. Incorrect quote... by Bert64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find the following quote from the article quite misleading:

    "Imagine I'm an IT manager contemplating standardising on a mobile platform. I want something rich enough to deliver applications, that's available from multiple manufacturers, offering a decent range of handsets with corporate features. Linux just falls down on all of those."

    The point of "that's available from multiple manufacturers", while a very valid point, surely linux is the only one that really is available from multiple manufacturers.
    With symbian or windows mobile, you may be able to get the hardware from multiple vendors, but your stuck with a single vendor for the software. With linux, as the article states, there are at least 2 groups pushing mobile linux, and multiple hardware manufacturers also rolling their own.

    The freedom of being able to buy your hardware from multiple vendors doesn't is far less of an advantage if you only have one vendor to buy the software from, whereas the freedom to obtain both hardware and software from multiple vendors is a huge benefit to the purchaser.

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  9. Re:OpenMoko is not your savior. by corychristison · · Score: 4, Informative

    OpenMoko is crap. The UI is horrid and shows no signs of getting better, development has no direction and never will, the hardware is an order of magnitude crappier than iPhone's (no capacitive multitouch touchscreen, no WiFi, no 2.5G or 3G WAN).
    Wow. Apply fanboy much?
    Actually the OpenMoko (aka FIC Neo1973) has the following new additions to hardware on the upcoming Consumer Edition (aka GTA02):
    * 802.11 b/g WiFi
    * Samsung 2442 SoC
    * SMedia 3362 Graphics Accelerator
    * 2 3D Accelerometers
    * 256MB Flash
    * 1700mAh Battery
    * Faster CPU - S3C2442/400
    * LEDs illuminating the two buttons.

    Do you really need a multi-touch screen? Not really. Maybe if you want to sit there and play video games... but that's the only practical use I can see in it.
    Most people who are looking at purchasing an OpenMoko phone, are not looking for flashy high-speed bullshit. We want something we can actually use. Most of us are hackers, and that is the need this phone is trying to fill. I want a phone I can build a simple app on for simple things. I'm sorry, but the only reason the iPhone has such high-end hardware, is because it requires the resources for it's bloated software.
    Please, for the love of 'steve', quit trolling.