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Review of Amazon's DRM-Less Music Download Store

fdmendez writes to tell us that he had a chance to check out Amazon's DRM-less music download store that was recently released as a beta trial. "Amazon one-ups the iTunes store in every way except for popularity. Never once did I find an album to be more expensive on the Amazon store in comparison to the iTunes store. The download experience was pleasant, and the lack of DRM truly makes it YOUR music. I don't know of any other download service that could top the Amazon MP3 store."

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  1. Obligitory by El_Smack · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I don't know of any other download service that could top the Amazon MP3 store."

    Bittorrent?

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    1. Re:Obligitory by p0tat03 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean the service where everybody leeches, resulting in complete lack of bandwidth available to downloaders unless you're in an exclusive, ratio-metered club?

      Or the one that really only works for popular albums, as anything old or otherwise unpopular and non-mainstream will have no seeders?

      Even accounting for the $0 price tag, Bittorrent has a LONG way to go to rival ANY paid music store.

    2. Re:Obligitory by Reason58 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why was the parent modded funny? If anything is should be modded sad but true. Pirated music is typically of better quality (bitrate, encoder, etc) than any "legal" music store on earth.

    3. Re:Obligitory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      A lot of the 95% complete torrents are seeded by the MAFIAA or their minions like MediaDefender.

    4. Re:Obligitory by ymgve · · Score: 4, Funny

      Plenty of Sony 'compact discs bought at retail' are guaranteed to give you a root-kit.
      And that technology was in use two years ago - I can only imagine what they are putting on retail CDs now.


      It's even worse now. They've started putting Britney Spears on them again.

  2. I do... by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know of any other download service that could top the Amazon MP3 store.

    AllOfMP3.

    1. Re:I do... by feed_me_cereal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      what's the point of paying for mp3's you wont legally own? You might as well just pirate them for free.

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    2. Re:I do... by Lussarn · · Score: 5, Funny

      what's the point of paying for mp3's you wont legally own?

      What's the point of legally owning an mp3?

    3. Re:I do... by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only that, I find it endlessly amusing people see buying a digital replica of a song a good deal, especially when you work out the prices. I worked it out yesterday. The album I was looking at was a mere dollar cheaper in MP3 format. So that extra dollar gets you a physical disk you can make your own MP3's from, or if you want lossless, quality sound, FLAC format, (not an option when all you have is an MP3) all the packaging etc...

      It's like settling for a JPG of the Mona Lisa.

    4. Re:I do... by ConanG · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What if you only want a single song from that album? If you buy the disk, it's NOT cheaper than buying the one song.

      It's not like settling for a jpg of the Mona Lisa. It's like buying just the Mona Lisa jpg instead of a collection of artwork that includes the Mona Lisa. Maybe the rest of that artwork is crap.

      Back to the album...maybe you don't want to go through the trouble of converting it yourself. Maybe you don't want to mess with CDs at all. There are plenty of reasons why it's a better choice to buy a single off an album rather than the entire album.

    5. Re:I do... by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Insightful

      NO. STOP IT.

      It's legal to download music because it's legal, not because of the blank media levy. Whether or not the industry is bilking you of that money, you have that right. It's not illegal. The media levy doesn't make it any more or less legal, though it may assuage some of the guilt people feel.

      If you put a levy on bullets to ease the pain and suffering of families that are broken apart by gun violence, it doesn't make shooting people legal. It's an illegal activity no matter what.

      The levy is a smoke screen so that we don't notice if they try and legislate our IP rights away. It's a random and immoral money grab. It presupposes guilt when you buy media for any purpose, even if the media has non-infringing purposes. We should all hate the levy.

  3. I tried it out yesterday by SiChemist · · Score: 5, Informative

    I tried the store out yesterday (bought 1 track) and was very impressed. No special software needed (making it Linux friendly). This might just get me back into buying music again instead of listening to all my old stuff.

    1. Re:I tried it out yesterday by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Informative

      Per their FAQ:
      If you use Linux, you can currently buy individual songs. A Linux version of the Amazon MP3 Downloader is under development, and when released will allow entire album purchases.

      That is really nice to see!

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    2. Re:I tried it out yesterday by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish I'd heard about this earlier!

      It's only been available since yesterday.

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    3. Re:I tried it out yesterday by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are struggling to handle users that can't master the concept of a .zip file.

  4. Competition is good. by mattgreen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope this service takes off, as competition between iTunes and other services only means less DRM, higher quality songs, and better selection for all of us. Amazon just needs to land some deals with record labels...

  5. Missing something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "the lack of DRM truly makes it YOUR music"... and YOURS, and YOURS, and HIS, and HER, and THEIR.

  6. Re:iPod sync? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Funny

    don't worry - you don't appear as an Apple fanboy.
     
    You appear as an idiot. If the distinction is meaningful is up to you.

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  7. Re:I Can Think Of A Better One by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 5, Funny

    Amazon does sell .cdas of music. It's DRM-free too. Thing is, it takes forever to download, but you get a free frisbee and storage case for the trouble.

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  8. I just downloaded a tune... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    and found your credit card number in it.

  9. AAC "quality" irrelevant ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amazon trumps iTunes on DRM-free volume, but iTunes trumps Amazon by selling 256kbps AAC, as opposed to the 256kbps MP3 that Amazon sells.

    Isn't that 256kb AAC the optional higher priced version?

    More importantly the improved "quality" of 256 kb AAC over 256kb MP3 is largely hypothetical, few if any could tell the difference. However even if we accept marginal quality and size improvements these are overwhelmingly outweighed by the universal nature of MP3 files. Every digital player supports MP3. Portables, cars, home stereos, etc. There is no vendor lock.

  10. Re:US Only by jcr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Give them a fake address. A friend of mine in Brazil just told me that they're not checking.

    -jcr

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  11. BZZZZT by robogun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just tried it. XP & VISTA or MAC OSX ONLY for Albums!!!

    -------------------
    You have selected to purchase:
            GREATEST HITS by Elton John
    (Amazon MP3 Purchases are limited to U.S. customers.)

    You must install the Amazon MP3 Downloader to purchase albums. (learn more)

            * It automatically adds your music downloads to iTunes or Windows Media Player
            * It takes just a few clicks and less than 30 seconds to install

    DOWNLOAD NOW -- WINDOWS XP & VISTA

    I agree to the terms of use | Download Mac OS X version

    1. Re:BZZZZT by mycroft822 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, they were doing you a favor by not letting you buy it. Elton John? Seriously?

  12. Magnatune has lossless downloads by cutecub · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The indy music store/label Magnatune has both lossy and lossless music downloads. They're a good example of what's possible:

    There are 5 major formats availabe to buyers:
    • 44k/16bit WAV: zip file of perfect quality WAV files.
    • FLAC: zip file of perfect quality FLAC files.
    • OGG: zip file of high quality OGG files.
    • 128kb MP3: zip file of 128kb MP3 files.
    • MP3 VBR: zip of high quality MP3 VBR files.

    -S
  13. Wait wait wait...I'm confused by db32 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are we still supposed to loathe Amazon for their patent nonsense with crap like the 1-click issue? I mean...I thought we weren't supposed to buy from them and support evil patent trolls. But now, we are supposed to buy from them to show support for non DRM music stores. But we aren't supposed to buy from Apple anyways because of their iPhone shenanagins. But we are supposed to love Apple because its trendy. I am so confused. Will someone please deconflict the groupthink so I know if I'm allowed to buy non-DRM (good) music from Amazon (bad) instead of DRM music (bad) from Apple (both) or if I am supposed to loathe all of the RIAA music and not buy DRM or non-DRM music from any source if it is RIAA owned. What about indie music with DRM? Where does that fit in? God, someone please help... All I know for sure is the MS music store is 100% evil and the Zune will eat your soul.

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  14. Re:"in every way" by croddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're not 256kbps CBR mp3s. They look like -V0 or -V1 files, based on the bitrate, but are definitely joint-stereo VBR files encoded using LAME 3.97. Run it through strings to see for yourself. There are a lot more devices that support MP3 than AAC (don't just think about pocket jukeboxes here -- think of stuff that plays MP3 CDs and DVDs). 89 cents for a high-bitrate LAME VBR MP3 is without doubt a better choice than an AAC at a slightly lower bitrate for $1.39.

  15. Re:"in every way" by croddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    (the two files I've inspected myself, by the way, averaged 279 kbps and 280kbps.)

  16. Re:MP3 piracy irrelevant by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some of their MP3s are in fact watermarked, but by the label, not amazon (at least not yet).

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  17. Re:MP3 sounds bad to my ears by afay · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The question is not whether you can distinguish one from the other. Anyone can do that. The question is, if you're not told beforehand (blind), can you pick out the higher quality recording more than 50% of the time. And the answer is you can't.

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  18. You can't be serious. by Leviathant · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's funny! At one time I thought the same thing. Anecdote: I was going through the tedious task of ripping my CDs, and after going through my collection of Nine Inch Nails and Autechre discs, I got the bright idea that instead of ripping my Aphex Twin collection, I'd just download a torrent. Same end result, right? I figured Aphex Twin fans would be fairly careful about audio fidelity, so I grabbed a torrent of some giganto Aphex Twin collection.

    The end result was all over the map. Sure, there were a number of albums that were alright, some of them were terrible, with skips and low bitrates and mistitled songs, not to mention whole albums of "rare and unreleased" mislabeled garbage that wasn't even by Aphex Twin. I would have better spent my time continuing to rip them myself.

    Alternatively, if I didn't already own the CDs, I would have happily bought large chunks of the Aphex Twin catalog from Bleep.com, which has been doing the DRM-free $1 MP3 download thing for over three years now.

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  19. Time = Money by msimm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I agree (mostly), those lines of thinking side-step things like convenience (I download it when I like, from the comfort of my home, probably while doing other things) and format (I use mp3's exclusively, so buying 'hard' media simply adds an additional step between me and the music).

    So while I agree that you end up paying more for less (no album cover, no liner notes, no physical media) it comes close to being a wash (not quite) with the immediacy and the convenience.

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  20. Re:"in every way" by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Informative
  21. Re:Classical selection... by Petrushka · · Score: 4, Informative

    is amazing! Prokofiev symphony #2 revealed 156 hits! Now that is some obscure music (his least popular symphony), and the fact that they would have multiple recordings of it right there for 90c... wow.

    Just for some balance,

    1. only a few of those hits are actually for Prokofiev's 2nd symphony;
    2. only three separate recordings are available;
    3. with one of them (the Ukraine National Symphony Orchestra recording), you're going to be paying that 90c for each and every variation in the second movement, for a total of $7.20 for that one movement. With the other two recordings (LSO and Berliner Phil.), you have to buy all the symphonies just to get number two, as number two is marked as "album only".

    I mean, it seems to me like they're on the right track, but someone hasn't put too much thought into the fact that classical music tends to have a lot of very short and very long tracks. Evidence of this -- compare the prices for the complete set of Prokofiev symphonies in those three recordings:

    • Naxos (Ukrainian/Polish orchestras) -- $65.02
    • LSO/Gergiev -- $36.12
    • Berliner Philharmoniker/Dzawa -- $21.67

    Who's going to pay more than three times as much for a Naxos set as for the Berliner Philharmoniker???