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Microsoft Should Abandon Vista?

mr_mischief writes "An editorial written by Don Reisinger over at CNet's News.com takes Microsoft to task for the outright failure of Vista. He suggests that Vista may be the downfall of the company as, despite years in development, Vista was delivered to market too early. His suggestion? Support those who are running it, but otherwise ditch Vista and move on. 'Never before have I seen such an abysmal start to an operating system release. For almost a year, people have been adopting Vista and becoming incensed by how poorly it operates. Not only does it cost too much, it requires more to run than XP, there is still poor driver support ... With Mac OS X hot on its tail, Vista is simply not capable of competing at an OS level with some of the best software around. If Microsoft continues down this path, it will be Vista that will bring the software giant to its knees--not Bill Gates' departure.'"

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  1. How Software Companies Die by lobiusmoop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This short essay by Orson Scott Card (of Ender's Game fame) I think describes the development of the Microsoft Vista disaster pretty well.

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    "I bless every day that I continue to live, for every day is pure profit."
  2. sigh by MOMOCROME · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Such nonsense... flame bait: rabble rousing.

    I've been using this 'abysmal failure' as a primary OS for 8 months with nary a hitch. I really have. I spend every day developing various codes with various tools, for what turns out to be many different platforms. Among a few others I have a Debian box and OS X 10.4 within reach, on equally capable hardware and I don't even bother with them. To the point where I'll probably power them down to save money on the electric bill.

    I suspect all the bad mouthing comes from people trying to shoehorn the thing into old hardware, or from people who fancy themselves capable with PC maintenance but can't handle simple configuration issues. Or most likely, by people who only ran a shoddy beta or have never run it at all. I'd really like someone to explain why the OS that I'm using right now without any problems doesn't work and should be abandoned.

    oh, I know, not towing the party line here will get me modded down quick. but aside from the excited FOSS fanatics here and a few ad-hit grubbing bloggopundits and the like, millions of people are getting along just fine with vista. hopping up and down while shouting about what a failure it is doesn't actually make it a failure. sorry to break it to you all.

  3. Is it 2001 again? by Computershack · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is it 2001 again? I'm pretty certain that exactly the same mutterings were made about XP when it was first released. Oh yeah...they were.

    Here's a few choice quotes from a 2001 "Techspot" review of Windows XP. They may sound familiar...

    On installation...

    Let me start off by saying the installation of Windows XP is long. When I say long, I mean REAL long. It took me over an hour to install on either test system! On speed...

    Well now, how does it feel you ask? It feels incredibly slow on the first system. That might just be an understatement. It feels ridiculously slow. If your system specs look anything like my first system, or even a little better, Windows XP is going to depress you.

    To me, the speed thing is also a concern. The desktop moves a bit slower than a Win9x GUI, and there are still some worries about gaming performance.

    On native drivers...

    One quick note, XP did have drivers for the GeForce 2 card, but came up empty handed for the classic Voodoo2.

    On whether to upgrade from Windows 98SE...

    I really do not see a need to upgrade from Windows 98/ME. If you are building a new system, then by all means, install Windows XP. If you think that Windows XP is going to revolutionize the way you use a computer and surf the web, wake up and save your money.

    And as plenty of recent Slashdot posts supporting XP have shown, we all know how short sighted the last quote was.

    As I said, we've been here before in 1991 with Windows XP yet Windows XP is now touted as Microsofts greatest OS. I expect the same will happen with Vista and be said about Vista when Microsoft releases it's next OS in a few years time.

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    I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams
  4. Re:Freaking flamebait articles. by nine-times · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even if it's not any worse than other Windows releases, it does seem to have gotten a bigger backlash than previous releases.

    I've been working in IT and support Windows machines since WFW 3.11. I've gone through pretty much every version of Windows between then and now, and I agree, each transition has caused problems (well... except for 2000->XP and 95->98, neither of which hurt too much). However, I've never seen so many IT people generally pissed off about a Windows release, and so few that are enthusiastic about it.

    It's not necessarily because it's worse or more buggy than previous Windows releases, but I get the sense that people are fed up. It's like, "Oh no. Not this shit again." After so many years and so many upgrades, having the same problems with each upgrade, people would like to see Microsoft learning from its mistakes and doing a better job anticipating the problems they're going to cause with the updates. Also, it seems like a lot of people are genuinely having problems with Microsoft products, but they've been having the same problems for over 10 years and none of the upgrades actually solve the problems.

    I think people are just getting tired of it all, thinking that there should be better solutions by now. It was excusable when desktop PC were still considered novel and new. Now people want to be able to take the technology for granted, and Microsoft isn't doing a good job of filling that desire.

  5. It's all just a misunderstanding. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The real problem is that CPU speeds have nearly flatlined."

    MOD PARENT UP. The abuse of deliberately making an OS require far more power, so people would feel it was necessary to buy another computer, has become a much bigger abuse than it was before.

    However, that's not the REAL problem. The real problem is just a misunderstanding. People think that Microsoft is a software company that is routinely abusive, but it isn't. Microsoft is an abuse company that merely uses software as a means of delivering abuse.

    It is more abusive to not just deliver abuse in constant streams, but to deliver big booms of abuse, too, so that people can't learn as easily to defend themselves. So, DOS 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 BOOM, 2.1, 3.0 BOOM, 3.1, 4.0 BOOM, 5.0, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME BOOM, Windows NT first release BOOM. Windows 2000, Windows XP first release BOOM, Win XP SP1, Win XP SP2, Windows Vista BOOM.

    Dr. Death has arrived. After only 3 years, requiem for an OS: Dr. Death is ready to begin killing software that customers want to use. He has decided that Windows XP will begin to die soon: January 31, 2008. The purpose is to make Bill Gates richer. Bill Gates can't invade Iraq, so he has to be happy with killing an operating system.

    The huge number of bugs in Windows XP before SP2 was very expensive for us. If I remember correctly, Windows XP SP2 fixed more than 630 bugs, and some of the fixes were not documented. The really major problems in Windows XP stopped only after SP2 was released, on August 25, 2004. That means we have gotten only 3 years of good use from Windows XP.

    Let other people have the grief. Unless forced by circumstances, never move to a new version of Microsoft software until the second service pack is released.

    (Someone said that rule will just cause Microsoft to release service packs much more often. If that happens, it may be necessary to change the rule to "until the X service pack...")

    Even though updating Windows XP from an SP2 CD requires downloading more than 170 Megabytes of files, Microsoft hasn't delivered a service pack for Windows XP in 3 years. The Windows XP updates of just August's Patch Tuesday were more than 20 Megabytes. Microsoft seems to have delayed releasing an SP3 for Windows XP to try to discourage people from using Windows XP.

    New versions of Linux are released to make a better OS. New versions of Microsoft Windows seem to have the purpose of 1) killing the old version and 2) using more CPU power so that it is necessary to buy new hardware. When you partner with Microsoft, you partner with a company that may sometimes choose to be your enemy, in my opinion.

    It is not only the vulnerabilities that are expensive. Microsoft's adversarial behavior is expensive, too.

    Some of this may be a joke, and some of it may be the truth.

    1. Re:It's all just a misunderstanding. by AmaDaden · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I would have totally agreed with you a year ago, But Ubuntu is a massive improvement from other Linux distros. Except for games I've been able to entirely replace my windows install. I've not once had to go out and muck about in the console or installing software on my own. I've used the package manager (think "add and remove programs" but it actually can find and install new programs) about 100 times now to install many cool little apps. They have not all worked they way I wanted but most of them would not have been possible with out hours of trolling freeware sites installing and uninstalling software that would wreak havoc on my PC. I can honestly say that my time using Ubuntu was FAR less painful then using XP. Just my 2 cents

    2. Re:It's all just a misunderstanding. by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Windows only "works" because it has a huge market share, and thus has vendor support. It really doesn't "just work" out of the box, and (Vista) runs horribly slow on anything but the best computers.

      And about "ease of use", "no fiddling with config files" and lets you "develop art/applications/websites with some of the best tools in the world", well, you described Mac OS X to a Tee. It's a great OS, works exactly how it's supposed to out of the box, and has the best, most intuitive "ease of use" of anything on the market. And it's What You Use if you're in the arts.

      I'm not even going to cover Linux, as I believe it truly has no place on my Grandmother's desktop computer, and probably enver will. Ubuntu has made it far better, but it still fails the Grandma test (at last check).

      I bet this post will get me marked as a Mac fanboy. Guess what? I'm not. Probably won't ever own a Mac - I personally really don't like ease of use (I'm weird).

      Also, as a second point, supposed physical superiority (aka e-Penis) really has nothing to do with this disucssion, so please leave it out. It only espouses your ignorance even more by spouting a (quite possibly wrong) stereotype.