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1-Click Rejection Rejected

theodp writes "On Wednesday, a three-judge USPTO panel convened at Amazon's request rejected a USPTO Examiner's rejection of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos's 1-Click patent, ruling that it wasn't obvious to them what the Examiner found obvious. The application has been remanded to the Examiner with instructions to make the obviousness more obvious."

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  1. Firehose antics... by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure, it's something that relevant to Slashdot, but posting a link directly to the documents leaves somebody without much experience reading patent-speak (like myself) almost in the dark.

    Maybe this was a bad call coming straight from the firehose?

  2. Catch-22 by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do you explain what makes something obvious when it's obvious?

    It's incredibly easy, if not trivial, to design a site so that someone can save a set of data (name, address, CC info) and resubmit it along with another set of data (the order) in one click. There are first and second-year CS and CIS projects that are more complicated than that. Securing the site wouldn't be nearly as simple, but that's not the part that's covered by the patent.

  3. Obviousness. by Ihlosi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As always, there are some who will find somthing obvious only after they've had their heads repeatedly banged against it.

  4. Re:But... by pimpimpim · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Apparently the Examiner saw it, but the people higher up (let me guess, older?) are apparently easily flabbergasted by Amazon's techspeak. I'm no patent lawyer, but I can imagine one can rewrite "using account data saved from the user" in a complex enough way to make it sound like innovation.

    And as far as I've heard it's a crap 'invention' anyway, one wrong click and you just spent money on something you didn't really want. I'd rather review my account data and address every time.

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  5. Gah! by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why can't they reject it on the grounds that software shouldn't be patentable?

    Patents were never intended to protect ideas but rather an idea + method of accomplishing it. The purpose being that it wouldn't stifle innovation because other people could come up with other - perhaps improved - methods to accomplish the same thing. Thus innovation continues forward, but the particular device that the original designer came up with is protected, not the goal he set out to accomplish. It's akin to patenting an octagonal wheel. Someone else is free to come along and patent a circle based wheel. But with software patents, even if you do it better, you can be sued for it. Thus obvious stifling of innovation. Sure you could do it on your own time, but you have to wait, what, 50 years before you can make money from it?

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  6. Re:But... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But, but... It's so OBVIOUS!

    The problem with the whole area of tech patents evaluated by non-techie people is the classic teacher's dilemma: for those who understand, no explanation is necessary, while for those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

    Almost by definition, something is obvious if it is apparent without further explanation. However, like the many tests of "reasonableness" in law, obviousness is in the eye of the beholder and depends on context. Defining an accurate, repeatable, qualitative test that determines whether something is or is not obvious in general is impossible.

    However, one realistic and credible test is whether other people in the field in question could sensibly be expected to "invent" the same thing in the same circumstances without much thought. I would argue that claiming a typical web developer wouldn't think of the idea to have a single click in a specific place perform an action is pretty insulting to the intelligence of web developers, not least because hyperlinks have been following this principle since before Amazon was a twinkle in Jeff Bezos's eye. Similarly, the idea of remembering user data to minimise repetitive data entry has been around in database world since many years before the web existed. This is drifting into prior art rather than obviousness, perhaps, but I suspect that's the best way to attack this particular lunacy. After all, you can't credibly argue that other people wouldn't think of the same thing in the same circumstances if many of them already did.

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