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D.C. Commuters to be Scanned With Infrared Cameras

owlgorithm writes "Washington, D.C. area commuters are going to be "scanned like groceries at the supermarket" in order to catch single-occupant vehicles who are illegally using carpool lanes. The article, from the Washington Post, says that infrared cameras capable of detecting human skin will be installed, rather than the visible-spectrum cameras in use today. So much for using dummies in the front seat."

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  1. Wait... by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A local municipal government agency, using technology to solve a problem, as part of its charge to the public?

    O, the humanity!

    1. Re:Wait... by arivanov · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Anti-illegal immigrant technology actually. Used mostly to look for stowaways in luggage and cargo.

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  2. Solution to Privacy Concerns by p0tat03 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1 - Have a machine vision backend analyze images coming back from cameras, picking out "guilty" cars along with their plates. Discard other data.
    2 - Ensure that the code used for this vision system is open to public scrutiny.
    3 - Catch the crooks, and the regular folk don't even get recorded to a hard drive at any point.
    4 - ???
    5 - You know the rest...

  3. More seriously, what about children? by Albanach · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've used the HOV lane into DC with a child in an infant seat behind me. The camera isn't going to spot that.

    Am I going to have to get sworn affidavits stating the child was with me? Should I take photos on my journey? Are HOV lanes 18+ now?

  4. Actually, confusing the camera is a good plan. by CFD339 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Think about how you'd write the code for the machine. Your job is to count -- you have to find at least two distinct signatures. If you find more than one that is distinct, you ignore that car. If you find less than one, what do you do? Probably you consider this a detection error. A thermally reflective glass coating would work. I'd bet a heat pack hand warmer on the dashboard would do it too.

    If it were me, I'd try a thermal hand warmer pack on the dashboard by the passenger seat; and maybe one each on a string in the back seat about where heads would be for back seat passengers.

    Remember, glass is transparent in the visual spectrum, but can be opaque in the infrared. I know this from using Thermal Imaging Cameras in houses that are on fire. A big living room window can look just like a wall -- or even a mirror -- through the screen of a TIC depending on what outside temperature. You can see the shape of a person on the TIC when what you're looking at is a porcelain shower stall. Your own heat is being reflected back at you.

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  5. I like it by TheSync · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Speaking as a DC area commuter who takes I-95 in Virginia everyday, this is a great idea.

    When traffic is heavy, any small distraction can turn into a back-up as the flow phase changes from movement to stoppage.

    So on I-95, cops patrol the HOV lanes, and when they find a violator they turn on their lights and pull the miscreant over.

    Meanwhile, the very action of turning on their lights and pulling the miscreant over slows down the traffic in the non-HOV lanes, leading to a back-up.

    I'd much prefer that HOV violators are detected by camera and mailed tickets than stopped by a police car.