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Antarctic Ozone Hole Shrinks 30 Percent

polar red sends us news of a story that many outlets have picked up from a European Space Agency press release: the Antarctic ozone hole is 30% smaller than it was during the previous record year. It's still about the size of North America. "Scientists say this year's smaller hole... is due to natural variations in temperature and atmospheric dynamics... and is not indicative of a long-term trend. 'Although the hole is somewhat smaller than usual, we cannot conclude from this that the ozone layer is recovering already,' [one researcher said]."

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  1. Re:hmm... by geekoid · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's not agenda.
    As some who remembers these discussions when ti was found out the hole was growing, I can remember hearing the exact same thing about it's increase. Later it was found out why. CFC were banned, and the holes expansion was slowed, as predicted. Now the hole is smaller then usually and they say, basically, one data point does not make a trend.

    As for global warming, In the 70's the science community(climatologist, specifically) was split just about 50/50 over global warming. As more data came in, more prediction were made and more facts about CO2 were discovered it went from 50/50 to 75/25 and now 99.9/0.01

    This is exactly how science works.

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  2. And.... by gsfprez · · Score: 0, Troll

    So?

    I love it when we get told things like "there are fewer lakes in northern Alberta!" or "there is an increase of temperature of .6 degrees in Sri Lanka!" and we're all supposed to sit here and know why its a BFD?

    So, the hole got smaller... so what? I didn't give a shit when the hold got bigger because it was probably just naturally getting larger and smaller, kinda like last winter was a total bitch here and set the record for snow, and longest period of snow on Pike's Peak ever recorded, and the previous 10 years had been very very warm and little snow and everyone complained. Guess what, they all complained last year because there was "too much!" snow. Holy shit, there's no pleasing some people, is there?

    I say "So what?" to last year and the previous ten years both. I say "so what?" to the ozone hole. I say "so what?" to global warming and climate change doomsayers.

    Listen, Jim Jones, the world isn't coming to an end, okay? Some years are warmer and some years are colder. i'm sure if there was really global warming, by definition, it wouldn't get *colder* than its ever been before and there wouldn't be *more* snow than ever before, now would there?

    The funniest part is - and you can quote me now because i'm the only one calling it now... but if a Democrat becomes president, all of this wailing and balling will drop in volume by 50% the day after they take office... .and this new leader will do exactly very little... there will be no stoppage of the Alaska oil pipeline, there will be no banning of SUVs... the volume on the whole problem is going to go down for two reasons. 1 Bush won't be president. 2. Most all of the Kyoto Protocol countries are failing, and the ones who are exempt will be polluting so much more in 4 years that all the "work" of those that were trying to cut back will be rendered useless by an order of magnatude or maybe more.

    So if its not "global warming" that's going to kill us, instead now, its "climate change" who the hell cares? The climate has been changing for a long time, now. Maybe some people like it colder... maybe some people like it warmer? I personally like it colder, and i know most people like it warmer. Hells bells! If its getting warmer, than there's more warmth around the world, maybe the whole fscking planet won't have to move to Southern California now like they've been doing!

    And if the water levels go up, then there will be MORE ocean-front property instead of less! Again, not everyone will have to move to SoCal if they want some beach property anymore, eh?

    I seriously don't get why the oceans rising is such a big thing.. if it does, i suggest you move! If you don't move, and you want to play pretend that you can hold back the ocean, then you can be as stupid as the people that live in New Orleans, 20 feet under sea level. Seriously, what stupid shit lives 20 feet under sea level, just right up against the ocean? That really seems a daft idea.

    There will be PLENTY of land even in America if the oceans rise... have you driven thru Utah and Arizona? There are literally hundreds and hundreds of miles of NOTHING... and that's just what you can see from the handful of freeways... imagine that there's so much more where there are NO freeways.

    i hate people.. .people are so stoopid these days, its a wonder they can take a shit without getting it all over themselves.

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  3. Re:Tell me something... by plague3106 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hmm, I remember hearing about global warming at the same time as the ozone problem, some 15 years ago. Maybe also the ozone problem was one which was easier to fix (remove CFCs) than global warming.

    Overpopulation is also still a big problem, which you could argue is the cause of some of these other problems as well. Don't go by what the news says is a problem; they have the attention span of a nat, and about as much intelligence.

  4. Re:Fuck off troll! by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'd love to move on, but let's not forget, I was pretty savagely ridiculed for what I said about Ubuntu's design. Yet pretty much every day someone gets modded to five for making THE EXACT SAME CRITICISM in a different context.

    Look at it from my perspective: imagine the world adhering to a standard that it ignores in precisely those cases where you'd negatively be affected. Imaging the world being rational, except enough to screw you over.