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Countering the Arguments Against Unbundling Windows

An anonymous reader sends in a link to a blog posting by Con Zymaris arguing for competition regulators to force the unbundling of Windows from consumer PCs. The argument takes the form of knocking down one by one the objections raised by "unbundling skeptics."

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  1. Re:But then ... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Where did anyone say that Dell doesn't make money, or that Apple doesn't have support costs?

    The implications were that Dell would continue to make money, but that support costs would be transfered to Dell, same as with Windows, if Dell started selling PCs with OSX on them.

  2. Re:How to force Linux on everyone Fan Fiction by OverflowingBitBucket · · Score: 4, Informative

    No manufacturer is FORCED to bundle Microsoft XP or Vista with their hardware.

    Oh yes they are, if they want to stay in business.

    Inform yourself. Here is a start: link here.

    Manufacturers who wanted to get the nice cheap bulk OEM Windows licenses had (have?) to agree to pay-per-processor/system, regardless of actual OS installed.

    PC sales run on obscenely thin margins. If a manufacturer can't get the cheap price, they'll lose competition to someone who can.

    Dig around. Some of the manufacturers (see Gateway) had sales minimums and marketing requirements attached to the prices.

    So yes, they are FORCED.

  3. Re:Drivers, Compatability Testing, and Support by non · · Score: 4, Informative

    there were other operating systems, ones that ran on x86 hardware. they were better than windows, too. the company that created one of them desperately tried to sell dual-boot systems (they had an excellent boot manager, for which i left the OS installed long after it had any relevance). as far the argument that they will be gone in 10 years, i find it highly unlikely; the barriers to entry are too many.

    why didn't they get a manufacturer to ship dual-boot systems with their OS? because microsoft's OS licensing policy forbids it, it not by outright language, then by punitive cost measures. this was part of the focus of the department of justice's antitrust suit. as a matter of fact, even beige box companies used to force a copy of windows on individuals who purchased an entire system. microsoft's corporate policy is to force the entire world, if possible, to have only one choice. excuse me, let me correct myself; one choice in several flavors (think all the different vista incarnations that will be paraded in front of any future antitrust action as evidence of innovation and variety).

    did i hear anyone say BeOS? no, i didn't think so :-(

    --
    ...vividly encapsulates that post-Watergate/pre-punk/coked-up moment when you could trust no one, least of all yourself.
  4. Re:But then ... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    > "Unbundling won't happen - when sheeple buy a computer, they expect to have a fully functional thing that can surf the "Interweb" and "process a word", and "sheet a spread".

    Case in point: I encountered an irate phone caller because the version of Microsoft Office with her mac was only a trial version. She didn't like this, and ended up filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau in spite of the fact that the computer in question clearly stated that it came with a trial version.

    ... and linux does all that out of the box. All the distros I've tested automatically discovered and configured my internet connection, and are certainly more "fully functional" than any box that comes with Windows pre-installed. Multiple office suites, and now with click-and-install mp3 and dvd players, virtual machines (so you can run Windows where it belongs - in a window), etc.

    Unbundling will happen, within the next 2 years.