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OpenOffice.org 2.3 Review

Peace Frog writes passed us a link to an in-depth review of the newest version of OpenOffice. Instead of just the normal bug fixes, 2.3 has added several new features. Examples include: "A bunch of new and enhanced features like restoring the user-defined movement path in Impress and applying better default print settings in Calc. Check the release notes for complete information from OpenOffice.org. A significantly different chart tool. New extensions provided by Sun and other vendors. You will need to run 2.3 for the extensions to work. Read more about the new extensions on the OpenOffice.org web site." The general impression from the review is that the OO team is doing an excellent job of responding to feedback from previous releases.

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  1. Integration to 3rd party still nearly inexistant by arivanov · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing that made Microshaft Word the market winner was the integration. Regardless how much developers hate OLE, it did the job. You could take a data object from any other app and throw it in and it kind'a worked. It was not anywhere good enough from the perspective of a professional, but it was enough as far as Joe Average was concerned.
    What continues to make OO on non-windows platforms a losing proposition is the lack of such APIs. Even if the GUI and underlying libraries supports them OO continues to do things of its own (not surprising considering Sun's involvement). KDE embedding and full integration, gnome integration, etc. There are present in a very rudimentary fashion. As a result OO continues to be limited to a universe of its own. This hinders both its development and the development of third party aps like Dia. It also at the end of the day puts it firmly into the niche proposition area. Until this is resolved this is exactly where it will belong. Sad...

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  2. OOXML Support by SpiritGod21 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think this is unrelated to 2.3, but I was excited to see yesterday that Novell now has an OOXML Translator for OO.o. I was going to have to buy Office 2007 for my fiance soon because she needs to open .docx files that are emailed to her regularly. Now I don't have to bother.

    Whatever you say about Novell, I appreciate their work.

  3. Re:New version, huh? by Perl-Pusher · · Score: 5, Informative

    The parent troll conveniently ignored the fact that OO was a commercial product, sold to sun the subsequently open sourced. OpenOffice.org didn't write the original code, neither did Sun. Marco Börries at 16, dropped out of high school in Germany to establish 1984 to sell Star Office under the corporate name Star Division. The fact that it is still around today and competing with Microsoft is an amazing feat in itself.

  4. Incompatible rendering by tom17 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So I love OO and have started using it as my primary office suite at home. But it still falls short when it comes to rendering and printing docs and having them look the same as in MS Office.

    It's not a huge issue I guess, but it's certainly the reason that I still need to have MS Office installed in a VM. Highly over the top but a necessary step until OO can render stuff faithfully. My wife, for one, will not switch until it displays word docs correctly.

    Is this just me having this problem as I never see other people complaining about it.

    1. Re:Incompatible rendering by SEMW · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But it still falls short when it comes to rendering and printing docs and having them look the same as in MS Office. If it is essential that a document be rendered identically on different machines, a word processor -- any word processor -- is the wrong tool for the job. If something needs to be viewed only, export to pdf; if it needs to be edited as well, use DTP software.
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    2. Re:Incompatible rendering by DougWebb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Generally, I imagine that it has to do with the fact that word processing files don't carry fonts with them. Even if the file specification were 100% open and implementable, most fonts are licensed in a way that doesn't allow them to be redistributed. As a result, you can only print the document and send paper around, or export to PDF which renders the characters as lines and fills but doesn't include the font information itself.

      A desktop publishing package would have the same limitation, I would imagine, except the file formats might enable embedding the fonts (putting the license-compliance burden on the user), or a particular package might come with a standard set of fonts you can count on being available.

  5. Re:Integration to 3rd party still nearly inexistan by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Interesting
    OOo provides an API for programming Java OLE objects. The problem is not OOo, it is a lack of third party developers actually using this feature. A lot of applications suffer from this problem, actually. Hopefully, with the opening of Java, somebody will write OOo KDE and OOo GNOME wrappers for OLE objects.

    Personally, I hold out more hope for KOffice, which is built on KParts. If KOffice 2.0 is as good as the developers say it will be, I will be switching.

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  6. Allowable under SISSL by soullessbastard · · Score: 5, Informative

    Disclaimer: I am one of the founders of NeoOffice.

    Being based on OOo 1.x, IBM does not need to release the source code for Symphony. OOo was originally dual licensed both under LGPL and the SISSL license. SISSL allows companies to make completely closed source forks, only providing notice of the original vendor and SISSL license. This license was one of the primary motivating factors for why we forked and created NeoOffice, to prevent companies from making a commercial product whose improvements couldn't be shared back with all the volunteers that had worked to create it.

    Closed source forking is also our reason for using full GPL since it guarantees everyone's freedom to access the code. Not even LGPL provides that ability since commercial closed source proprietary code can still be incorporated provided it's in a shared library. Only the full GPL provides enough protections to ensure that everyone must cooperate and that no one can make key parts of the project rely on closed source solutions.

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  7. All these changes and yet... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... I still can't add a word to the dictionary with just one click. Try it for yourself, you'll see. Make a typo, right-click on the word once the squiggly red underline appears. It gives suggestions, and not an "Add" menu -- but a submenu. So me, the uncaring user, just wants to add this to the dictionary. I pick "Add" submenu, then I am faced with a choice. "soffice.dic", "standard.dic" and "sun.dic". Um... what? Why should I care? What happens if I pick the wrong one? Is there a wrong one? Why do I have to make this decision? Screw this, I'm going back to MS Office! (Okay, slight hyperbole with that last.)

    Unfortunately, this is a classic example of why open source software designed for mass use needs more contributors familiar with basic usability concepts. This way, end users could spend less time playing with their dics, and more time accomplishing their goals.

  8. Re:*sigh* ... still no outline mode in OOo Writer. by jvkjvk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and for most people that's true too - they don't come near LaTeX either!

    It might be bizarre to many /.'ers, but not everyone wants to learn a programming language to be able to create a document.

  9. Re:New version, huh? by zurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where I'm studying mathematics, we write our postgrad reports, essays, assignments in LaTeX.

    Word is inefficient for what I need to do. I reckon more university students should learnify it. Bibliographies, indices, TOCs... what more does one need? ;-)

    I admit it hasn't got the easiest learning curve, but if you're at a postgraduate level, I assume you've got some brains :D (though I somehow slipped in).

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