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Juror From RIAA Trial Speaks

Damon Tog notes a Wired blog posting featuring quotes from a juror who took part in the recent RIAA trial. Some excerpts: "She should have settled out of court for a few thousand dollars... Spoofing? We're thinking, "Oh my God, you got to be kidding."... She lied. There was no defense. Her defense sucked... I think she thought a jury from Duluth would be naive. We're not that stupid up here. I don't know what the f**k she was thinking, to tell you the truth."

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  1. Re:So did the jury ... by fm6 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Why? Because they convicted somebody based on the facts of the case? Sure, the law's brainless, but a jury's job is determine the facts of a case, not decide whether the law is fair.

    Oops, here's comes somebody babbling about "the right to jury nullification". Doesn't exist, except in the overactive imaginations of people who also believe in the "civil flag".

  2. So what? by plasticsquirrel · · Score: 0, Troll

    In the end, "after bickering," they settled on $9,250 for each song.
    So to teach her a lesson, the jury decided to turn her life upside down and bankrupt her over an MP3 collection...

    Jeebus, I need to move to Sweden.
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  3. Re:That quote, that quote! by geekoid · · Score: 0, Troll

    Fuck you and your loser workplace.

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  4. Re:So did the jury ... by geekoid · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yeah, and I left a book on the bus. Should I be fined because some one might have made a copy of that book?
    "I would have too."
    Then you are a fool.

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  5. Cruel and Unusual Punishment? by photomonkey · · Score: 0, Troll

    This woman could have walked into a record store, pointed a gun at the clerk and taken cash out of the register, and have received a less damaging penalty.

    Fuck you RIAA and fuck you Mr. Hegg. May you all burn in Hell while it's under my watch.

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  6. Re:So did the jury ... by speaker+of+the+truth · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sounds like a great excuse to let white men who murder black men to get away with it. Although I'm sure that would NEVER happen.

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  7. Wow, am I sick of this! by NuclearKangaroo · · Score: 0, Troll

    I can't believe how many people are crying about "the jury ruining her life", or how she should only be responsible for the value of a few albums, or the fact that she's a single mother.

    Are we all such victims now that we've forgotten the very concept of personal responsibility?

    No-one's ruining this woman's life but herself. She cavalierly helped herself to something she didn't pay anything for, and then made it available for anyone else to do the same. That act certainly denied the record companies a considerably greater sum of money than the value of each copy of each song that she obtained for herself.

    You hate the RIAA, and justly so... they're manipulative, money-grubbing dirtbags with an ethical deficiency so marked that they make Vader look like Ghandi. They twist the facts (every song downloaded equals an actual lost sale? What bullshit!) and abuse our legal processes; what's not to hate?

    Their case focuses on something incredibly important, though... that it's not ok to just keep helping yourself to something you haven't paid for. I don't give a damn if "everyone's doing it". You know right from wrong. You must surely understand that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, but you justify it with any number of excuses, all the while abdicating your own responsibility to yourself.

    If you're listening to music, and you enjoy doing so, you should be remunerating those individuals who made it happen, as surely as you're remunerated for your efforts in the workplace. Any justification around that is a complete cop-out.

    She broke that code. The law supports punishment for that. She lied about what she did, and bore the brunt of that. That she's a single mom? Meaningless. That she's going to go broke over it all?

    Sounds like karma to me.

  8. Re:the fine didn't fit the crime by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 0, Troll
    The problem is that the US soldier chose to serve his country, NOT to attack Iraq. Had the US soldier signed up for the "let's invade Iraq on false pretenses" club, then yes, blame the soldier for doing so.

    Ultranova is correct, and you are incorrect. We do not have a "citizen army" of conscripts. We have a mercenary army for pay. That it is lousy pay for a nasty job is irrelevent. People flip burgers or work at WalMart for equally lousy pay and fewer benefits. These people signed their lives on the dotted line. If Uncle sam says : charge over that hill and murder the enemy, you have to charge over that hill and murder the enemy. It doesn't matter who that enemy is, you are paid to murder people. Pure and simple. That's your job. You are a volunteer for-pay soldier.

    By your logic, lets also blame postal workers for delivering mail bombs and anthrax. If they signed up to deliver packages, of course they should be liable for the packages they deliver. Or perhaps we should look deeper and realize that they didn't sign up to deliver THAT package, they signed up to deliver packages.

    you are incorrect in your analogy. The postal workers deliver letters and packages that are, for the overwhelming majority to many many decimal places after 99.9, designed to NOT kill the recipient. When the soldier fires his rifle or drops a bomb or otherwise delivers ordnance at the enemy, his expressed aim is to kill or maim the recipient.

    So, I say: fuck the troops. They volunteered to be cannon fodder. Let 'em die.

    RS

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