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Airlines Have to Ask Permission to Fly 72 Hours Early

twitter wrote to mention that the TSA (Transport Security Administration) has released a new set of proposed rules that is raising quite a stir among groups ranging from the ACLU to the American Society of Travel Agents. Under the new rules airlines would be required to submit a passenger manifest (including full name, sex, date of birth, and redress number) for all flights departing, arriving, or flying over the United States at least 72 hours prior to departure. Boarding passes will only be issued to those passengers that have been cleared. "Hasbrouck submitted that requiring clearance in order to travel violates the US First Amendment right of assembly, the central claim in John Gilmore's case against the US government over the requirement to show photo ID for domestic travel. [...] ACLU's Barry Steinhardt quoted press reports of 500,000 to 750,000 people on the watch list (of which the no-fly list is a subset). 'If there are that many terrorists in the US, we'd all be dead.' TSA representative Kip Hawley noted that the list has been carefully investigated and halved over the last year. 'Half of grossly bloated is still bloated,' Steinhardt replied."

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  1. Doesn't make any difference to me by Tim+Ward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I have already decided that I'm not going to visit the USA any more because it's just too much hassle. So if it's made more hassle then that won't have any effect on me.

  2. Save that ridiculous hyperbolic crap by SIIHP · · Score: 0, Troll

    "No, we don't let you in."

    Except we DO, and then we argue about whether or not to give you AMNESTY.

    "You can leave, but not with your money."

    Except you can, and this point is bullshit.

    "You can leave..."

    ANYTIME YOU WANT. Get in a car, get on a charter, fuck man WALK if it's that important to you.

    Stop lying guy.

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    1. Re:Save that ridiculous hyperbolic crap by SIIHP · · Score: 0, Troll

      Don't have to, I've taken money out of the US a lot, for business reasons.

      How about you bother to learn WTF you're trolling about before you post again and look like a fucking idiot?

      "The working theory with these people is the Boiling frog syndrome."

      Except the boiling frog thing is a myth in all aspects. But you're stupid and self assured, reality has nothing to do with what you think.

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  3. Re:say goodbuy by Grishnakh · · Score: -1, Troll

    How about saying goodbye to flying to a funeral.
    They're really gonna expect people to get cleared 72 hours in advance to go to their mother's funeral (to pick an example)?
    Well, I guess they (TPTB at the TSA) continue to demonstrate how utterly clueless they are.


    So what? What makes you think you have any right to fly to a funeral with short notice? (Or any rights at all?) The government has the power to enact this rule, and if they do, people will just have to deal with it. It's that simple. After all, what are you going to do if you don't like it? Vote for someone who'll change the system? Yeah, right: we've seen how well that works.

    Americans need to start getting used to having their rights and privileges curtailed and revoked. The only rights we have are those the government grants us, and if they decide they need to take some away, then we'll just have to deal with it. There's nothing at all you can do about it.

  4. Who said car? by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    Actually, you can't. You have to have a valid driver's license to drive.

    So? There's still mopeds or bikes...

    Unless you propose Bush plans to de-limb the entire country. I'm sure lots of people think that way so it wouldn't surprise me if you are one of them.

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  5. Re:Your payperz, plezz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    I dunno about that,... has anybody driven between Arizona & California recently. On a recent trip from Phoenix to San Diego, we were stopped on I-8,


    Let that be a lesson to you, stay the fuck out of San Diego, Zonie.

  6. RMS says, take the bus. Re:Faster to drive by twitter · · Score: -1, Troll

    you can drive by car between any 2 points in the continental US in 72 hours: 60mph * 72h = 4320 miles. If you've got an emergency, you're better off driving, no matter how far.

    The bus is slower because it makes stops, but you can still get across the US in three days. NY to LA is 2d, 18h, 30m by Greyhound.

    RMS wins yet again. He advocates bus travel for privacy and ecological reasons. Now he has speed too.

    Unfuckingbelievable! The man is right again.

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