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Pentagon Urges Space-Based Solar Power

eldavojohn writes "The Pentagon issued a report indicating that space-based solar power 'has the potential to help the United States stave off climate change and avoid future conflicts over oil by harnessing the Sun's power to provide an essentially inexhaustible supply of clean energy.' The report, from the Pentagon's National Security Space Office, calls for funding the development of space-based solar power culminating in 'a platform in geosynchronous orbit bigger than the international space station and capable of beaming 5-10 megawatts of power to a receiving station on the ground.' The Pentagon's interest in such an effort stems from the need to acquire energy on the battlefield, which today often comes at a painful premium."

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  1. Also the Fear of Where the Money Comes From by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's an excellent point.

    Worse yet is something that didn't make it past the editing in my submission of this summary. I read around and it seems like a lot of people think that this budget for such an expensive extensive project would almost certainly be cut from any other alternative energy sources.

    In my opinion, our defense spending is already through the roof, this could be a political move to put something powerful in space and get the money from alternative energy spending (or at least under the guises of it). Maybe my tin foil hat is on too tight but a lot of news sources were saying that this could drain and/or draw attention away from other just as valid efforts at escaping the grip of fossil fuels.

    Like everyone's been saying, our solution to these problems of dependence on the middle east & emissions is going to be a host of different solutions specific to different areas. I fear that the funding and attention will go into this and we'll have all our eggs in one basket ... a basket owned by and controlled by the DoD.

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    1. Re:Also the Fear of Where the Money Comes From by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Recoup the initial expense? Launch something bigger than the ISS into geosynchronous orbit (26,000 miles, compared with the ISS orbit of about 210 miles), for a measly 10 megawatts? You were kidding, right?

    2. Re:Also the Fear of Where the Money Comes From by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Well it is the US military we are talking about and to be blunt it be an effectives weapon it doesn't need to be that big or generate that much power.

      One tenth the size and rather than powering a city they can http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/22/0420239 or if they prefer they can http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/22/0420239 and torture a whole city at once.

      Personally with their current track record, there are a whole lot of countries that will not trust the water boarding US military with an enormous energy weapon in space.

      Even if you give them the benefit of the doubt, what happens when a micrometeorite damages the control systems and they accidentally fry a city, it might be clean but it is inherently very high risk.

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  2. Re:Could be a tremendously capable tool, but.... by navtal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or they could direct the megawatt beam at things other then a power collector.....

  3. Re:USA USA USA by SnowZero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Free as in taxes, right?

  4. There are stupid ideas by Cracked+Pottery · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It takes the military to come up with a REALLY stupid idea. We can develop better solar cells, or improve battery technology, or maybe put up more wind energy farms, but why not put the solar cells in space and beam the power down in focused beams with some sort of Buck Rogers scheme that has never been developed or tested and would probably, if it could work at all and not just be a cover for spending for a space weapons platform, be much more vulnerable to attack by potential adversary countries with access to space, e.g. the Russians or the Chinese. God save us from these morons.

    1. Re:There are stupid ideas by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I seems like a perfectly reasonable solution to one of the big worries over standard solar arrays: land use.

      Funny to hear that about a country which 42% of its territory is desertic.

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  5. The initial version may not be impressive but... by Koreantoast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, this initial version doesn't generate a lot of power, but if the military were to actually go through with this plan, it would absorb the initial R&D costs to take orbital solar platforms from scribbles on the back of a cocktail napkin to a real, working prototype. Once the process is proven, then it would be a much smaller economic risk for the private sector to transition the technology to the civilian sector and expand capacity. Very few entities in the United States, let alone the globe, have deep enough pockets to absorb the immense financial risk and ready access to the limited pools of specialized aerospace engineering talent required as the United States military. Personally, I would rather have the military spending money on technology that has civilian benefits instead of buying yet another set of nuclear weapons.

  6. Re:Could be a tremendously capable tool, but.... by drgould · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sooo..... would this mean that the Pentagon could *bogart* all of the power when needed, or reduce power generation at critical times?

    This is only proof of concept, 5 or 10 megawatts is a drop in the bucket for commercial or military use. Heck, there are operating 5 megawatt wind generators.

    The point is that somebody should at least try to demonstrate the feasibility (or infeasibility) of space-based solar power stations, and NASA isn't going to do it so who else is there?

    The important thing is to develop the technology and techniques to build solar power stations. Once we have those, commercial power companies can just contract out to Boeing or Lockheed to have them built. But it's developing the technology and techniques that are critical.

    It's like the Navy is funding Dr. Bussard's Polywell project. The Navy can ostensively use it for powering naval vessels, but once (if!) it works, the technology will be available for commercial use. The military has a long history of sponsoring R&D that has dual military and commercial uses.

    After all, if the Pentagon (US government) plays its cards right, ...

    I'm curious, do you have any examples of the US "playing its cards right" in any foreign policy matters?

  7. Re:Could be a tremendously capable tool, but.... by ILuvRamen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they'd be more likely to do that by accident. If they're off by like 0.001 degrees in space, they'll hit like 5 miles to the right and torch a whole town with microwaves or however they plan to beam it down. Nobody will want one of those plants anywhere near their town which means tons and tons of line loss from having to run power cables so far.

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  8. Re:Could be a tremendously capable tool, but.... by LMariachi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering the military budget comes out of the pockets of us commercial and civilian users, it's hardly a "free ride."

  9. Re:American Agri-business Versus DOD by Xonstantine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole point is to placate the angry American farmer. You mispelled "Archer Daniels Midland".
  10. Re:Actually, this could save money... by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This response makes the assumption that the United States gives a shit about international law.

    They don't.

    Look up anything about the international court for proof.

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  11. Re:American Agri-business Versus DOD by Jerry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is impossible to switch to Ethanol. The Ethanol industry's own data (each gallon of Ethanol produced yields an excess of 17,000 BTUs. 125,000 BTU/gal Gasoline / 17,000 BTU/gal excess = 7) shows that it takes SEVEN gallons of Ethanol to replace ONE gallon of Gasoline. The average yield of Corn is 135 Bu/acre and each Bushel of Corn yields 2.68 Gal of Ethanol. To replace Gasoline with Ethanol made from Corn grown in the US would require 44 Million MORE acres of agricultural land than the TOTAL acres of agricultural land available in the US.

    Add to that the fact that it is limited to one crop per growing season, is a mono-culture highly susceptible to natural or artificial pathogens, drought, floods and hail and you have what is probably the least desirable energy source of all.

    What is pushing the Ethanol industry? Corn ethanol subsidies totaled $7.0 billion in 2006 for 4.9 billion gallons of ethanol. That's $1.45 per gallon of ethanol (and $2.21 per gal of gas replaced). There are 17 NEW Ethanol plants being built in Nebraska because of those subsidies.

    What makes the WHOLE THING A TOTAL DISASTER is that Ethanol is NOT the path or even a bridge to energy independence. It is merely a drain on the Federal treasury driven by greed and corruption.

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