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Saturn's Moons Harboring Water?

eldavojohn writes "New bizarre images of Saturn's moons are exciting scientists as there may be some indication of water, possibly at very low depths in the frigid environment they possess. From the article, 'Titan's north pole is currently gripped by winter. And quite a winter it is, with temperatures dropping to -180C and a rain of methane and ethane drizzling down, filling the moon's lakes and seas. These liquids also carve meandering rivers and channels on the moon's surface. Finally, last week NASA and Esa revealed images from Cassini which confirmed that jets of fine, icy particles are spraying from Saturn's moon Enceladus and originate from a hot 'tiger stripe' fracture that straddles the moon's south polar region. The discovery raises the prospect of liquid water existing on Enceladus, and possibly life.' You can find the images here."

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  1. More Confirmation of Electric Universe Theory by pln2bz · · Score: 0, Troll
    Many people will not realize this because they have not been reading what is being said, but the recent announcement that the jets of Enceladus are hot point sources that originate from the "tiger stripes" (more technically called rilles) is further confirmation for the Electric Universe Theory.

    I would like to point people especially to the video at http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=1702&js=1&navjs=1. Now, watch the rotation of the planet, then re-start the movie and observe the lack of movement for the jets. You can see for yourself that the jets are rotating across the planet rather than with it, presumably along the rilles. The video is rather undeniable. Within the EU view, the hot point sources constitute electrical plasma guns that are excavating materials from the surface of the planet, leaving rilles in their wake. For a fuller treatment of the situation, visit http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060313moonjets.htm.

    People, you will perhaps get no better opportunity to see for yourself that space plasmas can be highly electrical. The field of astrophysics is incorrectly modeling these plasmas as fluids, as if they only respond to gravity. But the space plasmas instead respond to electromagnetic forces, as decades of laboratory plasma research have already confirmed for us.

    This is not the first time in the history of science when the momentum of belief has overcome reason. From The Electric Life of Michael Faraday by Alan Hirshfeld, page 73:

    On October 1, 1820, Humphrey Davy swept into the laboratory of the Roayl Institution with remarkable news for Michael Faraday. While performing a demonstration before a science class, Danish physicist Hans Christian Oersted had noticed that an electrical current flowing in a wire moved a nearby magnetic compass needle. Whenever Oersted brought the compass toward the wire, something wrested the needle from its tenuous alignment with the earth's magnetic field and swung it in a different direction. Evidently, current in a wire creates its own halo of force -- later proved to be a magnetic field, not from an ordinary magnet, but from an electrical impostor. Oersted's observation confirmed what some scientists had suspected: Electricity and magnetism were fundamentally related. (This hunch was based on a philosophical stance that all forces are manifestations of a single fundamental force; scientists today are still trying to prove such a "grand uninified theory."

    That no one before Oersted had observed the magnetic aspect of electricity may seem astonishing in retrospect, especially when battery-powered electric circuits were common in 1820s-era laboratories, and compasses had been around for centuries. True, the influence of a current-carrying wire on a compass needle can be subtle. (I've tried. It helps to wrap the wire several times around the compass to concentrate the magnetic effect.) But, more important, most scientists at the time had been educated (indoctrinated?) to believe that electricity and magnetism were distinct phenomena. In France, for example, where the ideas of the influential eighteenth-century physicist Charles Coulomb dominated the scientific community, electricity and magnetism were understood to be different fluids that do not interact with each other. After Oersted's announcement, physicist Andre-Marie Ampere lamented to a friend, "You are quite right to say that it is inconceivable that for twenty years no one tried the action of the voltaic pile on a magnet. I believe, however, that I can assign a cause for this; it lies in Coulomb's hypothesis on the nature of magnetic action; this hypothesis was believed as though it were a fact [and] it rejected any idea of action between electricity and the so-called magnetic wires. This prohibition was such that when [physicist] M Arago spoke of these new phenomena at the Institute, they w

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    "A man cannot begin to learn that which he thinks he already knows." --Epictetus, 1st Century A.D.
  2. Re:It makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Lol... did you seriously just compare yourself to Galileo because you *minored* in astronomy? Tool.

    What makes the guy an actual astronomer is that he's performed real science and advanced the discipline. The same thing that made Galileo a real astronomer. The fact that you look at stars through a $300 telescope on the weekends doesn't make you an astronomer in that, or any, sense. You're a star-gazer.

  3. Why you shouldn't mod this down. by Simonetta · · Score: 0, Troll

    The above message was clearing written by some loser with a serious attitude problem who clearly doesn't understand the beauty and elegance and absolute necessity of space travel. How could anyone be so dense? Must not have had cool science books with cool pictures as a kid. Tough. But, this being Slashdot, where space travel has the same status as Jesus in Oklahoma, it would be easy to just blast this fool back to slime by mod-ing him (her? it? shit!) down to -100. A deep and endless black hole that Slashdot reserves for losers who interrupt our beautiful discussion of really cool methane sparklers.

    But we shouldn't!

    Because there are millions of people out there who think exactly like this pathetic fool loser. And all these pathetic fool losers just like this guy actually control the money that we need to bring the absolute necessity of space travel into reality. If any of this cool shit is going to happen, we have to convince these pathetic fool losers to give us the money. And to do this we have to blow their arguments away in order that they too can come to see the beauty and elegance and absolute necessity of space travel, just like we do.

    So let them speak! We will listen. We will study the ravings of these pathetic fool losers and turn their own words and twisted logic into arguments that are crystal brilliant diamonds of logic that clearly demonstate the beauty and elegance and absolute necessity of space travel!

    So, no, don't mod them down. Have pity and patronize them. They will eventually come over to our side. Hell, if they're on Slashdot, they're already most of the way there.