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Geek and Gadgets Set Cross-US Speed Record

Brikus writes "And you thought your car had gadgets. In this story from Wired magazine, we hear about Alex Roy and his quest to break the record time for a cross-USA road trip. One of the biggest roadblocks to breaking the record: highway patrol officers, about 31,000 along the way. So Roy decked out his E39 BMW M5 with a thermal camera, radar/laser detectors, GPS devices, police scanners, and other high-tech gadgets and toys."

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  1. Alternate headline by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about: "Geek sets record by breaking the law and endangering innocent men, women, and children in selfish quest to do something pointless"

    Seriously, this doesn't push any boundaries of technology or vehicle science. It tests two things: being able to stay awake, and being able to break laws and get away with it. Here they are tearing across the country in a car filled with distracting devices, sleep deprivation, fatigue, driving at unsafe speeds near vehicles filled with normal people trying to get to work or school.

    1. Re:Alternate headline by DeathElk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You'll grow a sense of humour right out your ass when this fuckwit kills someone you love. It doesn't matter how "safe" or experienced a driver is, it's the other road users that are the unknown. I don't accept any risk that some DICKHEAD doing 200KPH will hit me. The law states that no-one should drive that fast on public roads as a matter of COMMON SENSE.

    2. Re:Alternate headline by Tenareth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What about when some soccer mom in an SUV kills someone you love?

      That's who kills more people than people like this... he's generally safer because he's actually aware he's fighting the odds, the daily commuters and soccer moms are the real danger because they have completely forgotten they are driving a killing machine.

      What happened that we are so afraid to test our boundaries? Guess what, no matter how safe you try to be, people will die.

      And yes, I've lost very close loved ones to traffic accidents. Raging against everyone that drives a little fast is not how you remember them. Life is dangerous.

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    3. Re:Alternate headline by CmdrGravy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think this guy does know what he's doing. He's had no professional training as a driver, girlfriends and co-drivers have left him because they felt he was endangering their lives and he's driving a fast car very dangerously on public roads.

      The article is full of incidents that are just outright dangerous stupidity, using the hard shoulder as an overtaking lane, undertaking 18 wheelers and so and so on. The bloke comes across as being a complete wanker, he's inherited a load of money from his folks so he never has to work and decides to be a great novelist. That doesn't work so he decides to become an irresponsible maniac driver without even having any sort of proper instruction and simply uses his inherited wealth to pay off any fines he gets along the way. He's not some kind of hero he's an overpriviledged muppet and if he carries on like this he will one day kill someone.

    4. Re:Alternate headline by ultranova · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, come on, for God's sake, grow a sense of humour.

      I did, but some asshole ran over it with a car.

      This is an astounding driving achievement.

      No. What this is is some asshole endangering everyone using public roads and then being proud of it.

      And as the article points out, this guy has become known as a fast but SAFE driver. I would have no doubt that he poses far less of a risk to other drivers than all those 'normal people', as you put it.

      Of course. He's a SAFE driver, rather than an ordinary guy. How foolish of us not to realize that.

      There is a difference between driving fast and driving dangerously.

      Since the amount of mayhem caused in the case of an accident, the braking distance, and the reaction distance all go up as the speed of the car goes up, and the former two squared at that, I'd say that you are very wrong. Driving faster is more dangerous than driving slower, both to yourself and to everyone else on the road.

      And besides, as a road user, doesn't it just go with the territory that you accept the risk that another driver may hit you?

      No, anymore than it goes with the territory of owning a house that someone might decide to bar the doors and set it on fire because they happen to like watching the flames while you're sleeping on your bed.

      I know I do. I know there are a few drivers out there who will sometimes drive well above safe speeds (which are not necessarily the same as the speed limits), and if one of them takes me out, well, it's just all part of the game of driving.

      Driving isn't a game. Driving is using a public utility - roads - to get from point A to point B. Drivers who can't get it through their heads that endangering others isn't okay should had their licenses and cars taken away.

      Which, I hope, will happen to these particular morons now that they've made their little trip public.

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    5. Re:Alternate headline by ultranova · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's who kills more people than people like this... he's generally safer because he's actually aware he's fighting the odds, the daily commuters and soccer moms are the real danger because they have completely forgotten they are driving a killing machine.

      There are million times more daily commuters and soccer moms than assholes like this guy, and they drive their commutes daily. That's why they have more accidents, not because they're more dangerous.

      What happened that we are so afraid to test our boundaries? Guess what, no matter how safe you try to be, people will die.

      Don't test your boundaries where failing will get other people hurt. Test them where the only possible victim will be you. And if you do insist on risking other people's lives, don't be surprised when they defend themselves by locking you up.

      And yes, I've lost very close loved ones to traffic accidents. Raging against everyone that drives a little fast is not how you remember them.

      Why not ? It seems to me that if sociopathic behavior gets someone killed, the best possible way to remember them is to get the guilty punished as cruelly as possible and then crushing said sociopathic behavior.

      Life is dangerous.

      Life would be a lot less dangerous if cretins like this didn't insist on doing stupid shit in public.

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  2. Re:How stupid... by 427_ci_505 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Alex Roy is essentially the man behind Team Polizei: http://www.teampolizei.com/ Does Gumball rallies and such. This sort of thing isn't new to him. And no matter what, his M5 kicks some serious ass.

  3. What a bastard. by zig007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What a fucking bastard.
    To call him a geek is an insult to me and all other geeks i know of.

    To endanger other people's lives like this is utterly despicable.
    Obviously, he doesn't care if he kills someone along the way. If he did, he wouldn't do this.
    Or what, is he a superhumanly safe driver is some non-imaginative way? Not fucking likely.

    Put that asshole in jail(it would be OK to lose the key) right now, for showing that he has the obvious intent to go out try to kill people.

    And why Slashdot sinks to the depths of publishing such a positively toned article about this psycho is far beyond me.

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  4. Red shift by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Funny

    The article forgot to mention that he needed to install blue tail lights so they appeared red to those behind him after Doppler shift.

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  5. It's 106 miles to Chicago... by weak* · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...we've got a full tank of octane, a half-charged PDA, it's dark(wolf the dragonmaster) and we're wearing pocket protectors.

    Commence acceleration.

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  6. Re:This doesn't make sense by mrjb · · Score: 5, Funny

    32h07m divided by 31,000 highway cops means driving past one patrol officer on average every 3.7 seconds. How can the gadgets help under such circumstances? Go-go gadget donut-thrower!

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  7. Re:Makes sense by eklitzke · · Score: 5, Informative

    He waited for the statute of limitations to expire on all of the traffic violations before having the story published, so he's no longer in risk of being prosecuted for them.

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  8. Re:Irresponsible by syylk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Speed limits are there for a reason, so stick to them! Traffic tickets should be depending on income/wealth instead of being fixed like they are now.

    Karma to burn, so I bite the bullet.

    You suggest that speed limits are there for a reason, then provide the reason: quick cash for the municipalities.

    Some limits are ridiculous low in some cases: I have a 30 km/h sign right in front of my window - and my condo is in front of a freeway! Often they are just a trick to further tax car owners, without resorting to the politically unpopular word "tax".

    Here (Italy) there's a huge scandal about similar behavior by the police enforcers, and one that is quickly making some heads roll.

    At some specific, usually not dangerous crossroads, the traffic lights have been reprogrammed to have a very short "yellow" time - around two seconds. It has been documented in a broadcast inquire on TV, with actual videos and SMPTE'd times. With two seconds from green to red, it's materially impossible to slow down and stop at the crossroad, even sticking to the very low speed limit.

    So you WILL cross the crossroad with a red. And of course, that crossroad has this new CCTV system to recognize plates and automatically issue tickets in case of crossing with red. There was an outburst of enraged citizens against this practice: in a two weeks period, they received in excess of 13'000 tickets, all at the same crossroad. In a town with around 50'000 people, not a major city either...

    Speed limits and absurd, often intentional, road laws are demonstrably used to sanate local administrations' budgets and balances. Disguised as "think of the children" policies, they are just another way to transfer resources from citizens to public administrators.

  9. How about non-traffic violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While traffic violations do cover a number of items, you can apply non-traffic-specific laws as well. How about "reckless endangerment" or any variety of other laws that might still be within the limitations?

    I'm not a huge fan of the "think about the children" type arguements, but would we be cheering this guy on if he'd hit a pedestrian, wrecked some property, or something else that may have occured had he not been lucky?

    This guy's not a geek, he's just rich enough to afford some expensive toys, a fast car, and not enough common sense or respect for others.

    1. Re:How about non-traffic violations? by geoskd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not a huge fan of the "think about the children" type arguements, but would we be cheering this guy on if he'd hit a pedestrian, wrecked some property, or something else that may have occured had he not been lucky?
      Except that he was driving on the highways pretty much the whole way, so you don't see many pedestrians (its a highway for good reason). The US highway system was designed with high speed trafic in mind, and most parts of it are relatively safe to drive at 100+ MPH. The only reason we don't usually is because of the law. As for the danger of hitting other vehicles, You'll notice the next time you are out on an actual highway that there is almost always high line of sight, meaning that you can see a very long way ahead without any obstructions, so you can see trouble coming way ahead of time. Furthermore, these guys were equiped with all kinds of tools to help them identify trouble beyond the line of sight, and under adverse conditions. They were not recklessly plowing down the road blind dumb and happy, they were prepared for all kinds of eventualities. In fact the only real significant threat to life or property would have been the deer they referenced in the article, and the infrared goggles should have given them plenty of opportunity to avoid that spot of trouble too.

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  10. Re:How stupid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These are also the same group people that killed an innocent couple during last years gumball. How many will they kill this year?

    http://jalopnik.com/cars/gumball-3000/gumballers-nick-morley-and-matthew-mcconville-arrested-after-hit+and+run-fatality-257447.php

  11. Re:How stupid... by marcello_dl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet I guess that, should he cause an accident, possibly killing people who have the bad luck of getting on the streets to commute and owning less safe cars than his precious M5, he'll run away like whatever 18 year old drunk coward.

    Shame on slashdot for posting this shit.

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  12. Re:How stupid... by rs79 · · Score: 5, Informative

    To be fair:

    1) The couple the racers hit ran a stop sign and were hit by a porsche going 6 miles over the limit
    2) The man had a heart atack when hit and died. His wife died a few days later (not sure why)
    3) The family of the deceased pleaded with the court to let him go. And they did.

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  13. Re:How stupid... by EvanED · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, but they left the scene of the accident, and tried to flee the country.

    The mitigating factors you mention may bring them down from "string them up by their thumbs" to "super asshole who deserves prison", but the latter is still not a very good state.

  14. Re:Team Polizei by d3vi1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not necessarily. Some american drivers suck, and because of that american motorway speeds are incredibly low. Almost everywhere in Europe the maximum speed is around 80 mph, and everywhere you can safely drive at OVER 90mph, while in the US it's at 65 or 75mph. The problem with the american drivers is that they hardly ever use the mirrors. I've seen drivers going directly from the carpool lane to the exit quite a few times without ever bothering to check the damned mirrors. From my point of view, automatic gear-boxes combined with driving only on motorways, leads to bad drivers. I've also seen drivers with their feet on the dashboard. I can't possibly imagine how on earth is the driver supposed to brake and avoid a possible accident with his feet up.
    They give an 18 year old a gun, they allow him to drive (which is potentially dangerous) at 16, but he can't have a beer until he's 21. Figure that out.
    It seems pretty normal to me to learn about the effects of alcohol _BEFORE_ you can get a weapon or drive a car.
    Getting back to the subject at hand. I think that the US should make the drivers license exam (the practical part) a lot harder. Driving on a mountain-side road with a lot of hairpin-turns in a manual gearbox car (possibly on snow or other bad conditions), teaches one about driving more than 1000 hours on a motorway. I also think that the guy has a very serious point by doing that.

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  15. Re:Oh, for fuck's sake. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since when does driving real fast qualify as sociopathy?

    When it's putting other people at risk of death or serious injury so that you can enjoy youself. We're not talking about merely violating speed limits on an empty highway, which I've certainly been known to do myself; we're talking about weaving in and out of traffic inches from other cars, driving recklessly, hitting triple digits in downtown areas. These guys are a threat to the safety of other people, and should be locked up.

    The Wikipedia article on Antisocial personality disorder quotes the DSM diagnositic critera. Their actions definitely meet two of the them:

    • failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
    • reckless disregard for safety of self or others

    Two others may be met:

    • deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
    • lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

    For a diagnosis of APD, though, there needs to be "evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years", and of course we don't know their childhood. (But the ICD criterea are a little looser, with conduct disorder at a young age being suportive of a diagnosis but not necessary.) But regardless of whether a clinical diagnosis is appropriate, it's certainly accurate to refer to the behavior as "sociopathic".

    It's no different than if I were to take my rifle and start shooting out of a window into a crowded street - even if I were aiming at inanimate targets, even if I were an expert marksman, putting others at risk so I can get my jollies is not tolerable behavior. You take your rifle to the range to shoot, you take your car to the track to drive fast.

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  16. Re:American sense of "speed" by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The USA has very low expectations of what a car can do. I blame the crappy suspension they put in their cars, that and all those top-heavy SUVs which roll over and kill everybody inside if you clip a curb or try and use the steering wheel.

    A modern BMW M5 can do over 200Mph, and do it in reasonable safety. 125 mph in an M5 is completely safe (other idiot drivers notwithstanding). 90 mph in an M5 is so far within the limits that it's boring.


    Ahh, another day, another idiot who presumes that "doing 200Mph safely" has anything to do with your car.

    First off, the M5 is electronically limited to 250kph, like most European vehicles that can go that fast.

    Second, stopping distance is proportional to the square of speed. Your reaction time is not.

    People who claim that driving at 125MPH is safe don't understand the problem. The problem is not whether or not you can control the car. The problem is what you do when something unexpected happens.

    I blame the crappy suspension they put in their cars, that and all those top-heavy SUVs which roll over and kill everybody inside if you clip a curb or try and use the steering wheel.


    Considering that a pretty good fraction of our cars are manufactured in Korea, Japan, or Europe, I'm not sure what you mean by the "crappy suspension" that "we" put in "our cars". Wake up. Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover are owned by Ford. Until recently, Daimler owned Chrysler.

    90 mph in an M5 is so far within the limits that it's boring.


    This expresses everything that's wrong with your attitude. You are driving on a public highway, putting everyone else at risk by the very nature of you being there. Good drivers cause crashes. Bad drivers cause crashes. You are not so skilled that you could not screw up. Even F1 drivers screw up.

    This is the LAST place where you want to be testing the limits of your vehicle. And if you do screw up, it will be far, far worse if you are going 125MPH.

    Note that this driver AVERAGED 90 MPH. Considering that he had to stop for gas and other necessities, he must have been going faster than 90 MPH for a fair portion of the trip.

    I am so sick and fucking tired of these arguments. Somehow, it's always the OTHER drivers who are the problem. Somehow, YOU are "skilled" enough to drive excessively fast (note that over the limit doesn't necessarily mean excessive). Perhaps YOU have never made a mistake and caused an accident. That's not the point. Perhaps someone else will make the mistake. Perhaps you will slip up. IT HAPPENS FAR MORE OFTEN THAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADMIT.

    We design and operate airplanes with significant safety margins, so that people don't die when mistakes or failures happen. The same logic should apply to motor vehicles.