Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" Is Out

Many readers are sending the news that Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon has been released. Download options include mirrors and torrents. Wired has a review based on the release candidate: "Gamers and hardcore media hounds may still feel left out... but we found playing music and watching movies in the new Ubuntu to be every bit as pleasant as it is under OS X or Windows... Wi-Fi, printing, my digital camera and even my iPod all worked immediately after installation — no drivers or other software required... I did have to install additional codecs to get MP3 and Windows Media Audio support."

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Feisty Doesn't Know

[Doc Ruby]

How come my Feisty (Ubuntu v7.04) update-manager doesn't know that there's a new distro upgrade available? There should be an icon in my Desktop panel offering a 1-click upgrade if I want.

I think it's weird that all the different apps, especially OS supporting apps, that are upgraded in the new release aren't demanding to be upgraded, even retaining the previous OS version without upgrading it, if dependencies allow (which is usually mostly the case for most apps that don't depend on a new kernel or something).

The Ubuntu upgrade system should offer steady upgrades between milestone OS releases, as it does, but much steadier. The OS release date should be more a convenient watermark, a snapshot with more through testing that developers use as a target, rather than an exclusive release that leaves users of previous OS version behind.

Re:Feisty Doesn't Know

[Doc Ruby]

(sudo update-manager -c) works, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the upgrade-manager telling me that its monitoring has found a distro upgrade.

If users don't read Slashdot, how are they supposed to know to look for a new version, to run the command? That's what the u-m icon is for.

Re:Feisty Doesn't Know

[Doc Ruby]

The problem, exactly, is exactly as I said. The u-m Desktop icon doesn't indicate that there's a distro upgrade available. So I have to know somehow that there's an upgrade available, and then manually start the u-m. That's the entire point of having the u-m icon appear when upgrades are ready.

And the other problem is, as I said, that lots of those "Gutsy" apps aren't necessarily Gutsy, they're just packaged that way. Many don't depend on anything that isn't in Feisty, though there are some complex dependencies on packages that are upgraded to meet the Gutsy deadline. Towards the Gutsy release date, but still in advance of the full Gutsy release, those less dependent apps should start offering to upgrade. Which would in turn take a lot of the load off the upgrade process on the date the full distro upgrade is released.

Re:Feisty Doesn't Know

[Doc Ruby]

Did your Desktop automatically show you an upgrade icon without you running an app to find out whether one's available, or did you know it was available and launch u-m? Because I'm complaining about the notifier.

Re:Feisty Doesn't Know

[Doc Ruby]

Where are the instructions for knowing the upgrade is available when the "upgrade notifer" icon doesn't appear to tell the user?

Re:Feisty Doesn't Know

[Doc Ruby]

If I launch the update-manager manually, it knows the distro upgrade is available, and offers it to me. But it's not showing the icon on the Desktop to notify me to launch u-m. This looks like a design flaw in u-m.