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White House Wins On Spying, Telecom Immunity

Posted by kdawson on from the running-scared-of-being-called-soft-on-terrism dept.

EllisDees sends in a Washington Post report that Senate Republicans have outmaneuvered Democrats, who withdrew a more stringent version of legislation to control the government's domestic surveillance program. The legislation that will go forward includes a grant of legal immunity to telecommunications companies that have assisted the program.

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  1. wha wha wha by moseman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Good. Fuck the terrorists and those who fight against US from within (read Democrats here please). All this public infighting only helps our enemies. The Dems know this - give aid and comfort. The enemy (al queda) of my enemy (Bush) is my friend.

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    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to think "profiling is worse than the slaughter of innocent people..."
  2. Worthless Gutless Democrats. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    When I lived in the States, I was a registered Democrat.

    Bush and his fascist cronies disgusted me, and when an opportunity came up for me to leave, I left. But I left hoping the Dems would grow a spine and fight for What's Right, or even something resembling it.

    They are worthless jellyfish. They could stop the war tomorrow (simply not fund it), but they don't.

    They don't have to vote FOR this fascist nonsense, but they DO.

    Pelosi and Ried are DISASTERS - every bit as criminally culpable as Bush, because he couldn't do it without their complicity. They have rolled over and over and over on every major vote. They have proven themselves unworthy of governance, and the Republicans are, sadly, even worse.

    I'm afraid the experiment of American Democracy is over. People talk about 2008 being the most important election. I disagree. I think it's over. It doesn't matter who wins the White House: the military/industrial party will continue its endless reign of terror.

    The election of 2008 may be momentous, it could be equal to Germany in 1932, or the USA in 1860. Either way, I do believe that the USA is in line for some serious turbulence, and I have serious doubts that it will survive as a democratic republic.

    If the Republicans DO win in 08, either prepare yourself for some desperate fighting (which the USA/gov will lose), or do what I did: Leave. ASAP. If the Dems win, and get a super majority in the Senate/House, then prepare for a rollercoaster ride, as the Fascist News Channel (Fox et al) whips the witless masses into a froth.

    RS

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  3. Re:ex post facto by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    At this point, armed militias are worthless against the power of the US Army and its remaining allies. They have weapons that we may acquire, regardless of the numbers of individuals we have on our side, will be of no match to the powerful arsenal that the government has.

    You assumed that all of the US Armed forces politicaly monolitic and would side with the government. In reality what would happen, as in any civil war, a portion would join the rebels. How large a portion? That's anyone's guess. But the resulting warfare would be far removed from "militias vs mechanized divisions".

    In my view, that is precisely why various Fundamentalist Christian Dominionist movements are, for many years now, desperately attempting to take over the Air Force, for they see it as the key deciding factor in any future conflagration.