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Do OpenOffice Users Save In Microsoft Format?

superglaze writes "Looking through an article on the smartphone office suite Quickoffice, I noted a claim by a company executive that OpenOffice users usually save their documents in a Microsoft format, e.g. .doc. Hence the company has no plans to support .odf. I guess I can see the rationale for this — it helps if you're sending a document to an MS-using company — but what's this community's general experience of saving in .odf vs. .doc format?"

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  1. And they are the reason by John+Jamieson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is software companies like this that force us to save in MS formats!

  2. .DOC by GWLlosa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have and use OpenOffice, but frequently wind up writing stuff that I'm going to want to send to a friend or allow him to grab off my share or whatnot. Rather than dick around with the whole format thing, its easier to just use .doc. Saves time and hassle.

  3. Re:Neither....PDF! by Marcion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I also do PDF quite bit, it also makes you look a bit more professional, as PDFs have a nice snobby image.

    However, my main format, especially when collaborating is .txt. The best supported open format in the history of computing. Plain Text forever!

  4. Don't give in! by epiphani · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Interchangeability is important. The .doc and other formats replaced WordPerfect and .rtf standards as de facto interchange formats.

    I save in .odf, and when I need to distribute documents, I export the docs to PDF. They're clean and easy to read, and the export is very accurate. PDF is also basically universally supported.

    The MS formats are so particular that the given version of office that people are using will maul my document. OO exports to PDF well, I dont need to check on it.

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    1. Re:Don't give in! by VGPowerlord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      PDF is basically universally supported... for reading.

      If you need to exchange documents with someone that needs to edit them, PDF is not an option.

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  5. Re:Count at least ONE who doesnt. by seanellis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I save ODF locally, PDF if someone else needs to print it, RTF if I need to send it to someone to edit, DOC if I need hell to freeze over.

    (OT: Has everyone seen the new Open Rights Group T-shirts?)

  6. We used to. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Internally we used to default all OO.o installs to save as MSFT formats. we changed that recently.

    We changed all internal to OO.o formats and all documents that exit the company must be sent as pdf. we did this for 3 reasons. compatability, security, and simplicity.

    compatable. even a solaris machine can display a pdf. simplicity. PDF is actually the most universal document format no matter what Microsoft says.

    Security. We had a problem with a salesperson that sent a contract to a client. the client sent it back and accepted it. The salesperson used the file sent back by the customer as the legal document and did not check it for changes. we got SCREWED because the asshole client changed several things silently in their favor.

    If we sent them a PDF, they cant play that game as all contracts have to be sent to legal for acceptance as the oridional document format. this solved this problem.

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    1. Re:We used to. by mungewell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      err... it's still possible to alter a PDF document.

      You'd need to put in place a proceedure that checks and confirms the MD5Sum or imposes digital signatures.
      Munge.

  7. Re:Count Two by G+Fab · · Score: 5, Insightful

    pretty sure you're full of it, man. IF you already had office paid for, why would you want openoffice? I think openoffice is excellent, but when I gave up on Office 2007, I installed Office 2003.

    If some moron told me to install an entire office program (A sluggish one that cloned the one I already have, at that), I would email his boss and ask for the correct file format. It's common sense. IF you abuse your position to have people install redundant software, you probably won't be in that position for very long. It's like sending your files in Spanish. .doc is the format of business.

    Microsoft has a stranglehold, but it's on a dinosaur. Software like this should not be locally installed, it should be online so you can easily collaborate. Beating Microsoft by copying them is silly because they will always be a step ahead.

  8. Re:I save in ODF by Hassman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Translation:

    I'm a dick that likes to slow down the business process and make others install redundant software (if they are even allowed to) that both costs time and money, but I don't care because it makes me feel important.

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  9. Re:Count at least ONE who doesnt. by rwven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty close to the same. I only use ODF stuff locally, but if someone else needs it that I know is using MSO, i save the document as a .doc. I don't see the .doc format as somehow evil, i just like ODF much better for obvious reasons. At the end of the day, .doc still gets the job done.

  10. Re:Only for sharing documents by MickLinux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems to me that your library should install open office on those computers, as well. It goes against the spirit of anti-trust legislation to have public utilities (such as a university library) forcing people into a specific company's product in order to get full print capability. That is typically going to be the case, as well, because since .doc is a closed format, not everything transfers over correctly.

    Now, on the other side of the coin may be the fact that Microsoft has provided the library with computers for free, under the contract that no openoffice gets installed on them. Fine, and well -- then set up one computer which the library has purchased free and clear, that sends the .odfs to the print server.

    If the contract specifies no open-office anywhere, at all, then I'd say that the users should be informed of that fact, and be given the opportunity to sign up on a list of complainants, for the purpose of a university-wide lawsuit against Microsoft.

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  11. Need viewer application + plugin by HalAtWork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What we need is a small portable efficient ODF viewer that can be used as a stand-alone app, as well as a browser plugin, just to render and view + print ODF files. That way people won't have to have large applications just to print these files.

    Also, it seems to me though that (when sharing) OpenOffice users might not save in .odf or .doc format as much as they would PDF format, actually.