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Vista Vs. Gutsy Gibbon
ricegf writes in with the account of one Rupert Goodwins writing in ZDNet UK. Goodwins has 7 computers running various versions of Windows and Linux, and explains why he chooses to do most of his work on the Gibbon. "So here's the funny thing. I've used Windows since 1.0. I've lived through the bad times of Windows/386 and ME, and the good times of NT 3.51 and 2K. I know XP if not backwards, then with a degree of familiarity that only middle-aged co-dependents can afford each other... Then how come I'm so much more at home with Ubuntu than Vista? It boils down to one abiding impression: Ubuntu goes out of its way to get out of your way... Vista goes out of its way to be Vista and enforce the Vista way."
My computer arrived with Ubuntu installed on it. I gave it a jog or two for several days, but ended up wiping that and installing Vista, and I've never been happier. Not sure why you blokes are so dead set against Vista. You do realize that in a few years, you'll have to be running Vista to use the tools of our generation? So why put off til tomorrow...
Anyway, I connect my HD which had Ubuntu Edgy installed on it, boot up. X complains about the video card so I change "nvidia" to "ati" in xorg.conf, type: startx, and 2 minutes latter I am reading my mail in thunderbird.
The problem with you story is that your average "End LUser" is not going to be able to edit the xorg.conf using vi, and even if they could, probably wouldn't know to change "nvidia" to "ati". The CLI is a bit beyond what most people care to know.
That said, they would have had to work around all the Windows Genuine Advantage crap. Find, download and install every driver the system used, including sound card, chipset, IDE controller, video and so on. However, they would at least have a low res "safe mode" GUI to do it all in. There would be no editing of text files.
Until Ubuntu or whatever distro user can do every single thing in the GUI that they can do through the CLI, Window will have an advantage. MS writes Windows with a GUI in mind from the ground up. Linux is designed to work with or without a GUI. On rare occasion, such as the one you listed here, there will be an absolute need to use the CLI in Linux. Some people just can't handle that.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
And that is the problem with Linux. What non-nerd user wants to do or even would know how to do this sort of thing?
Heck, I am a nerd and if I switch my desktop to a Unix OS I am going to just get a Mac.
Why read when you can see for yourself? Cool, eh? The maker was sure to show you the best of each. What they did not show is that you can run a copy of XP or Vista in a virtual machine on one of those faces, if you absolutely must have M$. Yes, there's more to an OS than a snazzy interface, but you have to admit that M$ is beat and you are going to see more of these articles not less because that last piece of the puzzle is being solved. Other stuff, like year long uptime and file systems that just work have been around for a decade. The list of M$ defectors is already large and impressive.
I'll bet the only thing that annoys you more than the success of free software is the failure of Vista. Here's about a dozen movies on that, just in case there's anyone out there who is still willing to bother with Vista.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
It's interesting that these Vista stories whip you up into such a frenzy that you can't even be bothered to pretend you're twitter's "fan" anymore.
Web2.0: I love when people Flickr my cuil and digg my boingboing until my google is reddit and I start to yahoo
> Oh dear, how hard is it to type "sudo apt-get install xxxxxx" ?
sudo apt-get-install support-spdif-and-line-out-at-the-same-time
sudo apt-get-install make-the-fucking-wireless-drivers-work
yeah, didn't work for me either.
Done with slashdot, done with nerds, getting a life.
I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you SLASHDOT fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a HOOKER (a HARDBODY w/TIGHT ASS for RAMming) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to BLOW ME on the hard dick. 20 minutes. At home, on my ancient WIFE running HER MOUTH, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this SLUT, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that. In addition, during this SEMEN transfer, MYDICK will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even HER HAND is straining to keep up as I type this. I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various BITCHES, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a WHORE that has run faster than its WIFE counterpart, despite the WHORE's same architecture. My WIFE with 200 POUNDS of ram runs faster than this SLUT machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that PROSTITUTE is a superior operating system. SEX lovers, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use THIS PENIS SHEATH over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
Frankly, I think you are full of it. I tried Ubuntumotmtot... the junk doesn't recognize half of my regular hardware. It is absolutely horrible ugly looking DIRECT RIP OFF of WindowsXP/AppleOSX. Its test video is a propaganda for Nelson Mandela and Africa ( like, what the hell? ) and it fills my drive with tons of un-needed files. It is messy and it feels like going back in time to Windows95.
You are all full of it and you are all full of lies.
If ubunutmmtooto.. was that good, it would have a HUGE marketshare, the whole "Lunix" marketshare is not even 1%!
Oh yeah, Lunix is SO GREAT, that people PAY to use Microsoft Windows. Go figure hey?
Again, you are all full of lies and have an agenda. You just hate Microsoft because they are big and successful.
I hate dishonest people, and you are all dishonest with an agenda to hate.
Nothing based on hate will ever succeed.
Mod me whatever, I don't give a fuck.
"Ubuntu is up-to-date, easy to install, easy to keep working properly and comes with a ton of applications right out of the box."
Imagine the pure outrage there would be in the nerd community if Microsoft bundled an "Office Lite" into Windows. They'd be accused of leveraging their monopoly again.
Yet when an office suite comes pre-installed with Ubuntu, that's just providing convenience for the user...
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
Isn't it funny how you keep linking to twitter's journal?
I read Twitter's journal because it's informative. I also liked to read Twitter's comments before you M$ loving assholes bombed his account back to the stone age. You might also note that I link to the "Vista Failure Log" as my home page with everything I write. Twitter often breaks stories before Slashdot does, especially since you paranoid asshats targeted the account.
As for my identity, both Twitter and I also link to The Register, BBC, FSF, and other sources of news including Slashdot. Twitter must be everywhere! If not, the opinions expressed by Twitter certainly are everywhere.
I wish that you would take your little pissing match somewhere else because it's distracting from the present conversation where I've linked to several YouTube videos showing off the best Vista and Beryl have to offer. After you have pissed off, I hope that this happens to you and your silly little botnet.
How long does it take to save up the modpoints required to both bomb me and mod up your own off topic, flamebait that no one cares about? Does M$ pay you for this or are you some kind of hopelessly obsessed loser?
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
You see what you want to see.
Major vendors would have to offer choices for that to be true. They don't, as the US Government once observed, because of the M$ monopoly. Quit pretending people have choices and get a chance to make comparisons.
Short of actually installing and using an OS, you have YouTube and opinion pieces from trade magazines. With M$'s advertising budget, the trade mags are just a little slanted in their coverage. Not even Slashdot cares about people's software freedom.
Everybody should use the system they like and stop preaching and advocating.
If you don't like Ubuntu or comparison articles and opinions one way or the other, you should go find an article you like and comment there. You might actually know something about the subject and look less like a hypocrite who's trying to preach atheism in a church. Freedom is worth advocating and I'm going to continue to tell people who read comparison articles that Windows will never do what users want because it's not free.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
How many of these articles are we going to get?
Not as many as all the Vista propaganda articles I hope. Though that would balance things out.
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Marketing talk is not just cheap, it has negative value. Free speech can be compromised just as much by too much noise as too little signal.
Uh-oh, looks like twitter got himself another sockpuppet account. Good GOD, how many are enough??
Hilarity ensues. Here the Lunix crowd spent a decade puling about how Microsoft favored usability over security... and now they just make a flavor of Lunix which dumps security and "gets out of your way"... you know, like letting Chinese hackers use your Ubuntu boxen as a botnet!
Ah yes... that good ol' Lunix security model we all know... and know. Now that Vista is the most stable and secure OS on the market, the MS haters just have to keep banging the drum about how bad Vista supposedly is.
BTW: am I the only one who thinks "Gutsy Gibbon" sounds like some kind of really disgusting slang term, like Dirty Sanchez or Hot Carl?
No Linux distribution to date passes the 3 most important tests of an OS:
1: Once installed my wireless network card can connect to my AES encrypted network
2: I can install my favorite game X on it and start playing with equal performance when game X runs under windows. (Currently Team Fortress 2)
3: I can sit my mother down in front of the machine and she can import a scanned picture, resize it, and send it via email to my sister.
These 3 have been accomplished under Windows XP and sadly, Vista. To date OpenSuse, Redhat, Ubuntu, or Gentoo has passed ANY of those 3.
Technology is meaningless in of itself. Technology is used to accomplish a goal. Linux's superior technology is irrelivant to a typical end user. They want to get something done on Linux. It's the same debate that has been going on since Quick and Dirt Operating System was born and regardless of the next round of the OS wars it's really just another Cola war.
-=[ Who Is John Galt? ]=-
...Visual Studio 8. I have yet to see something even remotely comparable for C++ development. I would rarely boot in Windows if I had a such a program for Linux.