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Brains Hard-Wired for Math

mcgrew writes "New Scientist is reporting that "non-human primates really can understand the meaning of numerals." The small study of two rhesus monkeys reveals that cells in their brains respond selectively to specific number values — regardless of whether the amount is represented by dots on a screen or an Arabic numeral. For example, a given brain cell in the monkey will respond to the number three, but not the number one. The results suggest that individual cells in human brains might also have a fine-tuned preference for specific numerical values." The report itself is online at PLoS Biology, Semantic Associations between Signs and Numerical Categories in the Prefrontal Cortex."

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  1. First post by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Funny

    My brain has a fine-tuned preference for the number 'one'.

  2. Numbers or numerals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't it more likely that the brain responds to numbers, and is also able to learn an association between numerals and numbers?

    To say that nonhuman primates respond to numerals makes it sound like they evolved to benefit from written language, which would be kinda weird, ya know.

  3. Re:binary by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 5, Funny

    And those who can't count.

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  4. Re:Base? by mdemonic · · Score: 5, Funny

    # I wonder if the brains are wired for specific bases, like base 10.

    We like it because we have ten fingers. Other civilizations have had other number systems though. The Mayans used base 20, since they had 20 fingers

  5. title wrong by weak* · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've co-taught an undergraduate mathematics course. Based on this experience and many others, I assure you the human mind is not hard-wired for math.

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  6. Re:Base? by xPsi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if the brains are wired for specific bases, like base 10. It is possible, but I'm guessing this is mostly a matter of familiarity and convention. For example, Baylonians used a sexagesimal (base 60 -- a.k.a. "thanks for frickin' 360 degrees guys"...) system. As many programmers know (do I even need to say it on ./?), base 2, 8, and 16 can become second nature pretty quickly with some practice and application.
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  7. What about the Pirahã? by settrans · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The notion that primates are genetically predisposed to have mathematical ability is tenuous. Why should we believe there is some neural circuitry designed explicitly for math? First of all, all studies teaching non-human primates to count involve extensive training of the primates; it doesn't just "click" for them. This would suggest that it is a struggle for them to learn the concept of counting and mathematics. (Of course it doesn't help that TFA is extremely light on the gory details of the methodology and results of the study.)

    Secondly, the Pirahã people of Amazonia do not have numbers or counting. Professor Everett, despite months of instruction, was unable to make any progress in teaching them how to count. The Pirahã themselves were highly motivated learners, as they didn't want to be ripped off in trade by visiting merchants, but nevertheless, they had no success in learning the most basic concepts of math. Indeed the Pirahã language has no numerals, and is claimed to have no quantifiers, either.

    Relevant readings:
    Everett, D.L. (2005). Cultural constraints on grammar and cognition in Pirahã. Current Anthropology, 46, 621-646.
    Hauser, M.D., Chomsky, N. and Fitch, W.T. (2002) The faculty of language: what is it, who has it, and how did it evolve? Science, 298, 1569-1579.
    Pinker, S. & Jackendoff, R. (in press). The components of language: What's specific to language, and What's specific to humans? In M.H. Christiansen, C. Collins & S. Edelman (Eds.), Language universals. New York: Oxford University Press.

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    1. Re:What about the Pirahã? by svunt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you just add footnotes to actually back up your claim on a slashdot discussion? *rubs eyes* You're going to destroy this site's reputation.

    2. Re:What about the Pirahã? by Frozen+Void · · Score: 5, Funny

      these were non-numbered footnotes so they don't count.

  8. Re:binary by mike260 · · Score: 5, Funny

    There actually are 11 kinds of people - one kind doesn't get the joke, one kind does, and the other nine are sick to death of hearing it trotted out at every bloody opportunity.

  9. Re:binary by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, there are 11 kinds of people, those who understand unary, and those who don't.

    There, fixed that for you.
  10. Re:Base? by Yoozer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most geeks will however have trouble with base 3.

  11. Re:binary by Anpheus · · Score: 5, Informative

    No such thing as 'base 1.'

    You're thinking of Peano arithmetic. (Defined by nought, 0, and the successor function, S, and a few other axioms. You define 1 as "0S" and 2 as "0SS", etc.)

  12. Re:binary by JustOK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its true that there are two types of people:
    1) those that can infer and extrapolate from incomplete data

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