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New Catalyst May Be a Boost For Fuel Cells

Roland Piquepaille writes "Researchers at the University of Houston (UH) have developed a new platinum-based catalyst for fuel cells that is at least four times more efficient and cheaper than existing catalysts. This discovery in fuel cell research may ease reliance on gasoline. According to the researchers, the active phase of the catalyst consists of nanoparticles with a platinum-rich shell and a core made of an alloy of copper, cobalt, and platinum. But it's not enough for this new catalyst to be more efficient and cheaper than a pure platinum one. It also needs to work for a long time — say, the life of a car. So far, the preliminary results look promising, but longer-term testing is needed before this kind of fuel cells can be used to power your car."

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  1. Re:OK, I've gotta ask by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gotta be the name. Platinum credit cards, platinum blondes, platinum membership....

  2. enough with the fuel cell by SolusSD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This technology has been 15 to 20 years off for the past 10 years. Improvements in battery technology are here, and cost would come down (much more quickly than fuel cells) if more companies jumped on the electric car bandwagon. We need more companies like this: www.teslamotors.com

    1. Re:enough with the fuel cell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think you're forgetting one little problem: Where the hell are we going to get enough elemental hydrogen to make fuel cells feasible? The scale of that problem alone is rough, and thanks to the laws of thermodynamics can't be magically solved by burning our remaining fossil fuels making hydrogen. Then there's storing all that hydrogen long term. Then distributing all of it somehow.

      Even if fuel cell technology were "complete" at this point, it's not a silver bullet. There's other problems to solve first, and they aren't just getting places to sell electric cars so the economics of scale kick in.

    2. Re:enough with the fuel cell by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You have fun trying to get hydrogen to fuel your "production fuel cell car." I, on the other hand, am going to take my 2008 Tesla Roadster (already have my production number) that I can charge anywhere and enjoy my low emission driving (in northern Illinois, all power provided is generated at nuclear power plants via ComEd). And yes, nuclear power is cleaner than coal generation. Google for it.

    3. Re:enough with the fuel cell by Snorpus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you sure that, per kWH, a modern IC automotive engine is cleaner than a modern coal-fired plant?

  3. Summary by should_be_linear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I extracted 4 key words from TFA : ...may...may...promising...testing.

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  4. Stupidest comment in years by Scareduck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which really means it will go up as people get forced out of the rampant consumerism lifestyle.
    If you really believe that crap, I'm sure there's a Vietnamese peasant somewhere who would gladly trade for your current situation.
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  5. RTFA: They crossed that $ threshold by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even if this is a proven method, there's also a cost obstacle to overcome here.

    The point of the article is that
      - the previous Platinum-based catalyst was about 6 times too expensive to be practical for an automotive application, while
      - this one is more than a factor of 6 cheaper, putting it in the running.

    In other words they've crossed the affrordability threshold.

    If the lifetime testing works out, no roadblocks show up, and something better doesn't come along and obsolete it before it gets deployed, expect this one to actually show up in cars.

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  6. Re:Who's car? by magisterx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, but going back to economics, the more effective and thus desirable the fuel cells are, the more incentive there is to do research on storing hydrogen.

  7. Seriously, enough is enough by TheAxeMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They suck for cars. Period. More efficient than gas, sure. But:
     
    1. Requires a complete infrastructure rework, just like electric would.
    2. Still lower efficiency.
    3. Harder to implement in a vehicle, requiring much more exotic material for efficient energy storage vs. battery tech we already have.
     
    I just want an electric car. Ok, actually, I want an affordable (sub-40k) Tesla Roadster-style car, but with four seats and a trunk.

  8. Gasoline Fuel Cells by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The breakthrough in fuel cells will come when they can deliver 50% or better efficiency from gasoline. Then the dinosaur egg will finally have hatched a chicken, which can then lay a chicken egg: other fuels that fuel cells, and their dependent motors/transmissions/etc, can use. That is a much more likely transition scenario than getting the fuels first, or switching to fuel cells and their fuels simultaneously.

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  9. Bah by tsotha · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This discovery in fuel cell research may ease reliance on gasoline.

    I don't see how this will do anything to ease the reliance on gasoline. A fuel cell isn't a power source per se - the power still comes from whatever you're feeding it. Whatever you're using as a fuel still requires a power input. This won't do a damn thing for energy independence unless it's coupled with a massive nuclear power plant construction program. And don't go on about wind and solar - even maxed out they barely make a dent.

    When that nuclear program finally starts, it's gonna be another decade, at least, before we see any benefit. So assuming they get whatever kinks they have out of the process today, and assuming auto manufacturers rush headlong into production (five year delay), and assuming ignorant opposition ot nuclear power can be overcome in those five years, the earliest this will have any displacement effect on oil is fifteen years from now.

    Which, in all practicality, means we'll all be dead before any of this happens.

    1. Re:Bah by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This discovery in fuel cell research may ease reliance on gasoline.

      I don't see how this will do anything to ease the reliance on gasoline. A fuel cell isn't a power source per se - the power still comes from whatever you're feeding it. Whatever you're using as a fuel still requires a power input. This won't do a damn thing for energy independence unless it's coupled with a massive nuclear power plant construction program.

      How about a coal power plant program? I mean, I realize your agenda is clearly "clean power", but you've slipped into another sometimes-overlapping agenda (really the "foreign oil dependence" one), and this really would make a change in that one. I think you'll find that if you can surpress the need to sound off on your personal set of agendas, you might find yourself able to better engage in thoughtful sociopolitical discourse.
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    2. Re:Bah by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the catalyst is useful in a gasoline -> reformer -> hydrogen -> fuel cell -> electricity -> electric motor -> power to the wheel system, and that system is more efficient than a gasoline IC engine, it eases the reliance on gasoline. Q.E.D..

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